Glad the U.S. Governement finally gets with the program.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow it doesn't matter that the american president (the trump one not the musk one) lies over and over and then tries to sell the appearance of success even though he has abjectly failed - and now fails to take any action against a fellow autocrat?

Seriously? It doesn't matter? We're expected to give him yet another free pass?

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I'm sorry... but what the EU did or did not accept, wouldn't have mattered that much. The only thing that was important is that Ukraine accepts it. I think if Ukraine actually accepted a reasonable proposal, the EU leaders would have gone along with it. The problem are neither the Europeans or the Ukrainians. The problem is Russia and also the US in the way that certain things have been communicated towards the Russians.

@Kwek00 I see I am dealing with a cheerleader of American imperialism. Someone who is proud to be the foreign legion of Donald Trump.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Sure tankie

@Kwek00 So all you have is cliche insults. Got it.

I am sorry but I am not going to give you a history lesson of the last 30 years in Eastern Europe. Sorry.

Those offers of membership into NATO was made by Bill Clinton as a policy of effectively annexing Eastern Europe through other means and to further the narrative that the US defeated the soviets in the Cold War. This was done in direct violation of the very agreements that ended the Cold War and the POTUS was told as early as 1992 that this would lead to war with Russia. Just a matter of when, not if. Hell Biden's own CIA director is on record in 2008 that forcing the NATO issue in Ukraine was a stupid idea that would lead to war.

And to claim that various nations joined NATO in the 1990s because of a threat from Russia is just factually wrong and an insult to people's intelligence.

Russia was under the "leadership" of an incompetent alcoholic who was in debt peonage and beholden to the US for his political survival. It is why Clinton felt free to violate the agreements without consequences. 30 years later is someone else's problem.

The selling point for NATO in the 90s was also a lie and those countries also joined under false pretenses. It was sold as a new cooperative organization that was going to focus on cooperation and mutual security in Europe alone with Russia and other former foes.

Yugoslavia proved NATO was just an offensive war alliance that had no intentions of peace outside American dominance of the entire continent.

I mean shit. World domination is literally officially US government policy a few years later.

But I guess facts don't matter when you have a bunch of Cold Warriors desperate to be relevant again.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow No, that label is just extremely applicable to you.


Well... just shut up then. I'm okay with it. Just shut up tankie.

@Kwek00 No, it is an utterly meaningless insult. Nothing more.

Very childish and it speaks volumes that it is all you have and not a valid counter argument.


I am sorry you are so upset that reality doesn't fit your propaganda and you are so triggered by anyone daring to challenge your narrative.

Let me know when a Biden staffer has given you new talking points instead of independent thoughts. I will be happy to debunk that nonsense too.


Oh and educating you is not my responsibility. Sorry, not sorry.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Sure... I've heared the same thing this week on a documentary off a far-right party. According to them racist is an utterly meaningless insult. I understand both of you... but to the outside world knows better.

Lol about the propaganda remark.

When people are thinking of horseshoe theory, they think of people like you.

@Kwek00 Again. Your ignorance is not my issue.


No, it has nothing to do with a broken clock. It is a meme because it is simple "thinking" by simple minds.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow But you are a meme PoBT, you are the left-wing version of HoraceGreenly. Just like those guys, you all pretend as if these nations can't choose anything else then what the villain in the narrative wants. In no moment does it come to your mind, that these countries, after being stuck under a fairly repressive regime, want to make their own choices.

And those deals you are refering too, were made when the Warshaw Pact was still in full effect. After the warshaw pact disbanned, these countries sought out other alliances to defend themselves from countries that might be hostile to them. It's really strange that in this story, a left-winger like you chooses to defend the opressor, because of a bunch of ideological anti-american fanfiction that you are hooked on, ... while the country that you are defending has abandoned that ideology years ago. A nation run by a dictator and his enslaved oligarchs, with an authoritarian nationalistic reactionairy ideology. That's like Sunsporter cheering that there are more people agreeing with the NAZI's because he hates liberalism. 🤷‍♂

@Kwek00 The only person stuck in the Cold War is you friend.