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The MSM falls all over itself angrily advocating the targeted killings of White farmers is NOT a genocide

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/21/politics/fact-check-white-farmers-south-africa-trump

Even when White farmers have been killed in South Africa, it has often been unclear that the crime was motivated by race. A South African government commission in 2003 found that the primary motive behind most attacks on farms was robbery. South African experts have reached similar conclusions this year.

Apparently what matters is motivation. Take heart White South Africans. When a mob breaks down your door in the middle of the night, drags your family out to be tortured and murdered, its cuz you had stuff they wanted! Why so upset? Just let your family get tortured and murdered, we have to prove Trump wrong!!!

In 2020, late in Trump’s first term, the State Department released a report on human rights in South Africa in which it said, “Some advocacy groups asserted white farmers were racially targeted for burglaries, home invasions, and killings, while many observers attributed the incidents to the country’s high and growing crime rate.” The State Department went on to surface arguments against the notion of race-motivated farm attacks. It wrote, “According to the Institute for Security Studies, ‘farm attacks and farm murders have increased in recent years in line with the general upward trend in South Africa’s serious and violent crimes.’”

It's not targeted killings, its just random violence against White farmers, and who cares anyway, all of South Africa is killing each other all the time and this is just a drop in the bucket.

During the Wednesday meeting, Trump tried to bolster his case by making apparent reference to an expropriation law Ramaphosa signed this year in part to help remedy the racial inequality in land ownership that still plagues South Africa three decades after the end of apartheid. (A 2017 report found that White people owned 72% of the country’s farms and agricultural holdings by individual landowners.) The new law has been attacked by Trump ally Elon Musk, who is from South Africa.

The law requires the government to provide “just and equitable” compensation, in most cases, to a landowner whose land is expropriated. But it also allows seizures without compensation in certain cases – from owners of any race – when the seizure is deemed “in the public interest” and certain conditions are met, such as the land being abandoned, the land being unused because the owner’s main purpose is to benefit from its appreciation, or the land having a market value the same or lower than government investments or subsidies in it.

Hey! South Africa hasn't taken anyone's land...yet. Stop calling attention to this new law we just passed to take farms from private land owners.
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trollslayer · 46-50, M
It isn’t a genocide.

Own a dictionary?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@trollslayer Duh. Way to miss the point. Did you even read this?
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@SumKindaMunster it’s in your subject line.

Apparently you have issues with the “MSM” saying this is not a genocide. And I am saying that the “MSM” is correct here.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@trollslayer Gotcha. Had you read my rebut, you would see that I also don't believe it's a "genocide".

However, that is not my point.

My point is that the MSM is playing semantic games here because this goes against the narrative of White colonialism and White supremacy.

Whites can't be victims according to the theory, because they dominate in the West.

Just because the number of White farmers killed does not meet some arbitrary number, and it doesn't meet the pedantic definition of a "genocide" doesn't mean White farmers aren't being killed for their land.

The SA government is also playing semantic games as well, insisting that they haven't repatriated anyone's land...yet. The law was just passed. It takes a LOOOOONNNNNNGGGGGG time for the government of SA to do anything, and that includes confiscating land and farms from White farmers. Rest assured that is coming.

You familiar with the recent history of Zimbabwe? If not, it would behoove you to read up on it...that is where South Africa is going as well...a long, slow decline into institutional corruption and cronyism.
@SumKindaMunster even the media in SA have different stories according to the publication you read. However now our national news channel is reporting on it. The crosses that is. Suddenly. After Cyril didn’t know.
@SumKindaMunster @trollslayer here is an interesting talk, this guy is a big business leader in SA, he is also a social media commentator, entrepreneur and a little bit of a provocateur. However he has interesting talks. He calls it genocide. I am undecided by that definition. I don’t know who the American interviewer is or his political affiliations just fyi.

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trollslayer · 46-50, M
@InterdimensionalSideEye sorry, I don’t get my news from podcasts. Here’s why:

Media Matters and MIT Technology Review have criticized Bet-David and his platform for promoting conspiracy theories and failing to challenge controversial guests.[16] According to Media Matters, his podcast has been a "safe space" for far-right figures to promote bigotry, including white nationalist rhetoric and anti-LGBTQ+ conspiracy theories.[17] MIT Technology Review noted that Bet-David interviewed anti-vaccine activists and promoters of COVID-19 misinformation, typically in a non-confontational manner.[16]
Progressive commentator Sam Seder remarked, "He and his crew have a pretty superficial understanding of even the things they purport to believe, so it was pretty easy for me to twist them in knots."[1]
An unnamed GOP insider told The Spectator: "The guy is clearly not intelligent, but the same scammy, shameless, unethical attributes that make someone a successful mortgage shyster are also great for the media industry."[1]

Save us your crap. You know who he is. If you don’t and didn’t bother to check your source - YOU are the problem.
@trollslayer I get my news from many, many sources and I have the lived experience of being in the country discussed in case you hadn’t noticed. I did emphasise that I didn’t know who the host was had you read what I said. I was talking about the South African commentator. I do not know who the American guy is, I was looking for a video on Rob Hersov and that’s the first thing that came up. Does it sound strange that a South African wouldn’t know who a talk show host from your country is? You think that I would be remotely interested in American politics or talk show hosts that are conspiracy people. I don’t know who that guy is. Did you bother to listen to the South African? I have bigger problems to deal with.

I also didn’t state anything he said as an absolute. Man. “ Save us your crap.” That’s very rude that’s the only response to all that? A personal insult….who’s us?

I was trying to have a dialogue and you respond that way.

By the way I’m neither right or left, I am pretty centrist, perhaps that’s a difficult concept for you to understand or to be polite about. Good manners aren’t that hard.
You call yourself troll slayer but I think you’re the troll, you seem unable to respond to comment in a deliberate, calm and logical manner. You one of those chronically online peeps?
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trollslayer · 46-50, M
@SumKindaMunster my source was wikipedia.
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@trollslayer dude really Wikipedia is ok for finding other sources at the bottom, we weren’t even allowed to use it at varsity. However the more sources you look at, the better.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@SumKindaMunster there were other sources listed. Everyone is free to edit.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@InterdimensionalSideEye agreed. Wikipedia is at best a place to get the basic background and point in the direction of other sources.