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To the climate change deniers: Even if climate change WERE a hoax, so what??

Fixing it would give us cleaner air and water, healthier food, less pollution, and secure domestic energy production.

What's to hate? Seriously.
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@Reason10 says
97 percent of all greenhouse gasses is WATER VAPOR,
That's true, AND it doesn't prevent CO2 from having a significant effect on atmospheric temperatures, and of course everyone knows that the warmer the air, the more moisture it can hold!!!

CO2 & methane are transparent to visible light but more opaque to infrared. The solar energy comes pouring in via the visible spectrum, but the heat can't leave so easily via the infrared spectrum due to that opacity. Kids' version:
https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/explainer-co2-and-other-greenhouse-gases
idealized quantitative model: https://www.climate-policy-watcher.org/coriolis-force/a-simple-mathematical-model-of-the-greenhouse-effect.html

With multiple data points we can solve for multiple variables simultaneously. Detailed climate models account for all dozens of variables. They are verified and calibrated based on 800,000 years of prior climate data.
http://web.mit.edu/globalchange/www/climate.html

800,000 years, covering about 7 ice ages. The climate data comes from bubbles in glacial ice, and is corroborated by data from lake & sea floor sediments.
https://icecores.org/about-ice-cores
CO2 & methane & temp data

Here's where the various data sets were collected:

The most salient thing about the 800,000 years of climate data is the rate of change during those previous 7 ice ages compared to the current rate of change this century.

Q: Where does the money for climate research come from?
Fair question - it comes mostly from the National Science Foundation. Equally fair: where does the money for climate denial come from? The US oil industry makes about $110 billion per year; coal another $20 billion. Big Oil spends $3.6 billion per year on advertising; a sum equal to about 8X the whole NSF climate budget. You're not naive enough to believe none of that money goes to propaganda, are you?