Is the solution to a poisonous society to chnage the psyche and values so that all the heros are people live a giving life ?

These were definetly the best of times, but if the problems of the present are overcome then are the best of times still possible in the future - yes. Will that happen ? Well in his book Sapiens Yual Noah Harari talks about a hunter gatherer having a shorter but more stress free life and how every time we developed civilisation to the next level of integration we give up some of our happiness. While I dispute that being killed by everything and anything more often is a small price to pain for a stress free life (I think its quite a big deal), I wonder where AI and automation takes us. Thomas Hardy's accounts of rural life in Dorset only 125? years ago seems grim and barbaric even, so rose tinted glasses come to mind, but in an AI driven future where resource conservation and eco concerns dominate can we go back to a life where the commute is no longer necessary. social media gives us human contact from our own home, and exercise is something we do by choice ? I think we already got there. Without overcrowding and the peer pressure for materialism, isn't someone who steps off the treadmill going to get the best of all lives right now - and better tomorrow and tomorrow ? Is it that society has to drop the need for competition and self advancement and adopt a new norm of self improvement and mutual support. The world still has many problems to solve but do most of those go away if everyone starts to value a "normal life" more and greed, ego, and competition become things of the past ? Is it our own competitive nature that makes society poisonous ? Now we can do so much more and are leaning more quickly than ever how to do even more isn’t it time to say to the population of the world, live in your own space, and do away with the whole concept that the goal in life is to be n Elon Musk (and who wants to) by chasing the rules so personnel success is capped at a certain level and the thing that brings fame is good deeds and no one is allowed to keep a fortune above a certain level but are instead bound by society to put it to good works. I'm not saying you cant have richer and poor, Im saying the rich have more of a duty to spend their fortune helping others because they can and therefore should and there reward should be acknowledgement and their punishment should be exposure ? So when the Forbes rich list comes out - the people at the top of it are vilified and criticised for not doing good deeds instead of being deified ? Is this not exactly what the man form Galilee said in his beatitudes ?

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being · 36-40, F

I agree with you Captain. I personally am on such a quest myself but some days it feels really difficult and I think it'd be easier to just give in to the norm.
But when I do, I remember that that's even more difficult and costly, happiness wise...

I don't know of solutions but as I grow up I tend to believe in a middle ground rather than totalitarianism. Usage of technology and then stop. Visiting nature and then using the positives of civilization.

I've travelled in SE Asia for 2 years and visited many countries and what I saw in the less developed ones was a brainwashing of how to better follow the West. And in the more developed, like South Korea, there was this craziness, all wrapped in plastic, from the street to the plastic surgeries - all men and women looking alike because of the surgeries!- and I just conclude ...what a wonderful world !!!

I mean ... Yes, I see all the wrongs, Google ads make sure that I see it as all of my ads nowadays are about helping the poor, the deceased, the war zones. Daily I see this on my YouTube channel !!!

But then, I look at my cats, the sun, the trees... There's no war there.
We are a crazy species.
I don't know what can work for all of us Captain as people are so brainwashed into their reality, each one of us is, and it's so hard to see outside of our bubble.

But what you say is beautiful. It's a good idea ☺ I approve!

But how to change our ideas of heroes?

I liked what Tarantino has done in his movies, placing the heroes mostly on women warriors and slaves.

But then again the subject is still around the wars.
The arts are a potent space to begin with...
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Excuse me for writing that much!:)

Captain · 61-69, M

@being no big ideas take time to crystalise into sound bites and I have a big idea now = I like what I came up with - bieng on the Forbes rich list is not a sin as long as you are constantly trying to do good things with your welath and get off of it again. I'm thinking somethng like "self funded self driven selflessness". Its not a sin to becme wealthy through hard work and earn it - normally its a good thing but it probably does depend on what job you do. But it is surely a sin to not then use that wealth to do good things with it - they may still be things that make money - but things that help everyone - especially the most needy. That's kind of where I got to and when I thought to myself your starting to sound a bit like Jesus here...

Captain · 61-69, M

I woud never be so bold as to post this idea if I hadn't reaiised that in my introspective thinking I hadn't suddenly stumbled upon the same ideas expressed in the beatitudes . In God we trust and I have alwasy bene impressed by the values Jesus is said to have taught us.That is why I think I am not wrong.

Captain · 61-69, M

First step to a beter life. Change the psyche that rich and famous are good things. People who give and are successful but give and are humble should be our role models so its time society did attack the super rich who do no give away most of their fortunes selflessly and praise those who do, and who sit back and enjoy their positons and don't keep givng. I justify this by the words of the beatitudes and a consideration about how the small amount of money held by the super rich is damaging society because it is shaping ambtiton to competiton rather than cooperation and hoarding rather than giving. In effect the Forbes rich list should be a list of hoarders and givers in which the givers are acclaimed and the hoarders are vilified. LKeadership comes form the top down and the top in modern society are the richest.

Captain · 61-69, M

In this world - these are the virtues we should admire, and the peole who show them are the people we should seek to emulate. It is our society that puts a premium on wealth and power instead that is flawed - but we are the market and the market can change what the providers produce - the market only needs to want ot change.Its not wrong to be on the Forbes rich list, its just right to be doing and giving for others so that you can get off it again.

SomeMichGuy · M

If we had a duty to the truth in our oaths of office, well-defined ways of monitoring, and automatic enforcement, we'd be better off.

But embracing the Golden Rule and the parable of the Good Samaritan would help.

Fixing money in politics would be another key thing.

Captain · 61-69, M

@SomeMichGuy Yep - I am a great believer in the principles of the French constitution which was adopted by the US. Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité. Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood. Equality has been patined as a dirty word. Rich people shouldn't have to pay taxes to support the poor. Why is that ? How as that happened. Its myth buidling isnt it. The right wing governments of the west habe built this myth that we are all rich and none of us should pay taxes. No we are not rich and its the squeezed middle that are taxed the most ensuring that unless they are footballers, CEOs or politicians they will never get rich. The rich are allowed to avoid taxes because "its a good thing otherwise they would leave the country". What ? I'm not a communist although equality is surely a commnuist ideal and its ironic that its right there in the French constitution. The hardest working and most successful should have their rewards, but the brotherhood bit says they should be using this wealth (this life debt) to help others. The US in particular has embraced the idea of freedom and dropped the ides of equlity of opportinity and of social care, even though they are in the French constitution. Two thirds of what the idealists believed in is discredited and rejected by modern Western democracies. Two thirds ! "Its worng to have a national health service free at piont of use to all if I have to pay more tax". "I shjould be allowed ot be be rich and its up to me whether I give money to charity or not". By the principals of the French revolution these are wrong - unconstitutional and wrong. Society needs to go into a big rethink here. ealth hoarind gneeds to become a thing that is despised - not adored and worshipped as Doanld Trump and Elon Musk are. I like my statement. Its not a sin to get on the Frobes rich list, as long as you are working really hard ot get off it again.

Captain · 61-69, M

Key Beatitudes:
"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
"Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted".
"Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth".
"Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be filled".
"Blessed are the merciful, for they shall be shown mercy".
"Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God".
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God".
"Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".

nudistsueaz · 61-69, F

Captain · 61-69, M

@nudistsueaz Fair enough, you are entitled to your opinion as well.

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