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The end of western democracies ?

So as the US stock market starts to weaken, is this the end for the strong dollar ?
With the end of free trade world wide is that the end of world economic growth ?
With the end of strategic alliance across the Atlantic is that the end of world peace ?
With the birth of a new great depression is that the start of runaway global warming ?

These things are structural changes in the world order that will haunt us forever unless soultions can be found and I see nothing in the current situaiton to give us hope of a brighter future - the attitude of the world has to change before thing can get better. The attitude of the world is not changing, positions are just becoming more entrenched and hostility is rising. How can we the people stop this ?

In a world dominated by democracies - how are we letting dicatatorship rise and triumph again ?
In a world of shrinking resource and overcrowding of habitable lands, how can democracies based upon continued economic and personnal wealth growth even survive ?
This looks like its very much the end - sad to say - and we let it happen on our watch.

Sorry to sound pessimistic but "united we stand, divided we fall."
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It is probably the end of the dollar long term.

And it is the end of economic growth in the so called west. BRICS has been growing for 4 straight years.

The end of idiotic strategic alliances will likely lead to more peace, not less.

Global warming might actually see a brief improvement if enough businesses crash. But realistically the west are not the countries down the most to deal with the issue.


75% of all dictatorships are propped up by the USA alone. The "good guys" have been keeping them around and supporting them to do the dirty work abroad so people can live comfortably in the imperial core.


The concept of infinite growth is based on a completely irrational idea and has been in need of change for a long time.

I am more worried about what the "west" will do to lash out trying desperately to maintain the status quo.
Captain · 61-69, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow How does a modern democracy survive in a no growth environment ? Populations are predcited to be fallig quickly by the end of this century due to the trend oin birth rates. How can you keep paying people more or even the same when demand is falling. I think this predicts a less stable less fair world where old money is king.
@Captain Not sure what democracy has to do with it outside propaganda. The birth trend tracks. The same reason you see low birth rates in the FSU. Nobody wants to bring a baby into a bad economy.

There are plenty of problems got us here but blaming workers for wanting a living wage is looking in the wrong places.

Since the 70s a larger and larger percentage of profit were just pocketed by people at the top and wages dropping at the bottom has been temporarily offset by credit. That only lasts so long.

A friend of mine from Croatia mentioned that under socialism they didn't realize all the cool stuff people had in the west was all on credit card debt.
Captain · 61-69, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I really like the point about the credit card culture. LOL. I the the lack of growth is the deeath nell for the free enerprise economy - and I thnk the best way to express it is to say that if we have no growth - what value is enterprise ?
@Captain Another problem is it is impossible to know what growth is legit in the US for 40 years since Reagan legalized stock buybacks making market manipulation effectively legal.
Captain · 61-69, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Surely thats acocunted for if you calculate on uisng market cap ??
@Captain All you have to do is look at crypto to see how market capitalization is almost entirely make believe.
Captain · 61-69, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow true - and look at the dollar bill - bno tthat we have any of those anymore - but what does it say on it ? Its just an unbacked IOU, infact all money is just IOUs isnt it ?