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missyann · 56-60
If this person is an illegal immigrant, he doesn’t have to have a reason. They are a criminal. Of course, there are different levels of crime, some are crimes with violence some aren’t. It doesn’t matter whether a person breaks into my home with a weapon and violence or not., it is still a criminal act, and I will still have them arrested
Yes, President Trump and Tom Holman have said all along that they are going after violent criminals but if in the process they come across other illegal immigrants why should they pass them over and not arrest them? Don’t you think that these immigrants will hide and if it is known that they are illegal, but are passed over because they’re not violent.?
I am sure that there are illegals who have medical problems and conditions and this is sad but if they are given exceptions, this will open up and you can of limes, where are they will all develop and say that they have underlying medical conditions
Yes, President Trump and Tom Holman have said all along that they are going after violent criminals but if in the process they come across other illegal immigrants why should they pass them over and not arrest them? Don’t you think that these immigrants will hide and if it is known that they are illegal, but are passed over because they’re not violent.?
I am sure that there are illegals who have medical problems and conditions and this is sad but if they are given exceptions, this will open up and you can of limes, where are they will all develop and say that they have underlying medical conditions
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@missyann That's not true. There's several immigrants who had green cards, work visas, were visiting their kids, or were two months away from their court dates to become legal citizens who were deported.
The only criminal I see here is you when you support war crimes.
The only criminal I see here is you when you support war crimes.
missyann · 56-60
@SatanBurger Maybe if you click your heels three times in your ruby slippers and say “ they are not criminals “ it will become true, but I kind of doubt it.
How many people with green cards or were just visiting their children with passports were deported without any underlying hidden reasons ? It can’t be very many.
How many people with green cards or were just visiting their children with passports were deported without any underlying hidden reasons ? It can’t be very many.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@missyann Maybe if you click your heels three times in your ruby slippers and say "they are criminals" it will become true, but I kind of doubt it.
It's enough people if you're not subscribed to all racist news like you are.
It's enough people if you're not subscribed to all racist news like you are.
KunsanVeteran · M
@SatanBurger Correct. This is racial profiling and depriving their victims of due process.
As the judge pointed out to the clueless lawyer that’s tRUMP’s DO(in)J lawyer that represented his misadministration: the judge did not order them to release anyone. He is just trying to see that they have their right to due process.
As the judge pointed out to the clueless lawyer that’s tRUMP’s DO(in)J lawyer that represented his misadministration: the judge did not order them to release anyone. He is just trying to see that they have their right to due process.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@KunsanVeteran Which these magas don't believe, they are some of the most unconstitutional people around they are traitors.
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missyann · 56-60
@SatanBurger Traitor’s ? Really ??
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@missyann Yes. Several citizens been held without due process and one was here just visiting due to teaching a seminar. Trump administration has been holding people with no due process and one was a family man that Trump administration admitted they screwed up and not only that, disobeyed judges orders to get said man back. So far this is the third time Trump has said that he wasn't going to obey the law.
Maga are traitors, this is what they voted for and in the future, Trump should be held responsible for unconstitutional actions.
Maga are traitors, this is what they voted for and in the future, Trump should be held responsible for unconstitutional actions.
missyann · 56-60
@SatanBurger Someone who is not a citizen of this country and has entered illegally, is NOT entitled to ANYTHING especially legal protection,
No matter what you think of them and how much you hate them the January 6 defendants did not receive due process and they are citizens
No matter what you think of them and how much you hate them the January 6 defendants did not receive due process and they are citizens
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@missyann The Jan 6th far right insurrectionists did receive legal process (charges, hearings, trials = due process).
What you're talking about is pretrial detention for "some" rioters, deemed flight risks. Which is where the controversy was, not that they didn't have a trial.
https://thedispatch.com/article/fact-checking-vivek-ramaswamys-claims-about-january-6-defendants/
First off, there's an mma fighter who was visiting the US for a seminar that got locked up in prison and he's not undocumented. There's several cases of this happening with people on work visas, had court dates to gain citizenship later, a father who was not here illegally and a little girl with brain cancer.
Second of all, the Constitution guarantees due process rights to all persons, not just citizens.
The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments both say no person shall be "deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."
It says person, not citizen.
That includes undocumented immigrants, tourists, even people accused of crimes.
Denying basic legal protections based on status historically is a feature of authoritarianism and again, unconstitutional.
What I just say in my last response? Trump and maga actions are unconstitutional, you're just proving me right ✅
What you're talking about is pretrial detention for "some" rioters, deemed flight risks. Which is where the controversy was, not that they didn't have a trial.
https://thedispatch.com/article/fact-checking-vivek-ramaswamys-claims-about-january-6-defendants/
Someone who is not a citizen of this country and has entered illegally, is NOT entitled to ANYTHING especially legal protection,
First off, there's an mma fighter who was visiting the US for a seminar that got locked up in prison and he's not undocumented. There's several cases of this happening with people on work visas, had court dates to gain citizenship later, a father who was not here illegally and a little girl with brain cancer.
Second of all, the Constitution guarantees due process rights to all persons, not just citizens.
The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments both say no person shall be "deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."
It says person, not citizen.
That includes undocumented immigrants, tourists, even people accused of crimes.
Denying basic legal protections based on status historically is a feature of authoritarianism and again, unconstitutional.
What I just say in my last response? Trump and maga actions are unconstitutional, you're just proving me right ✅
KunsanVeteran · M
@missyann You are sadly misinformed. Every human being in America has rights.
missyann · 56-60
@KunsanVeteran Unfortunately, there is no purpose, having a boarder and calling the United States of America, a sovereign country
why do we have a border? Why is there a purpose in becoming an American Citizen if there is no difference in the constitutions protection of every citizen in the world. we must open our borders and let everyone in including terrorist who let’s say want to drive planes into our pentagon White House capital who hate America. They have the same protections
It is so wonderful to know that there is no reason to celebrate being an American
Except those who were born in America, who used ” their “ constitutional right to question an election. No, those who were actually somewhat violent, should have received some kind of punishment, but they’re due process was greatly violated first, the majority of those arrested did nothing but step foot into the capital, and they were found guilty until proven innocent held in solitary confinement in one of the nastiest jails in this country. Pretrial detention , over 40,000 hours of surveillance tape was suppressed and liberal judges, denied their rights to a defense, and said that they were getting a fair trial ha ha
This was the first time either side had the guts to question an election and just because it was conservatives didn’t give the Biden administration the right to treat these people worse than any war, criminal or terrorist
President Trump pardoned the “ process” .
why do we have a border? Why is there a purpose in becoming an American Citizen if there is no difference in the constitutions protection of every citizen in the world. we must open our borders and let everyone in including terrorist who let’s say want to drive planes into our pentagon White House capital who hate America. They have the same protections
It is so wonderful to know that there is no reason to celebrate being an American
Except those who were born in America, who used ” their “ constitutional right to question an election. No, those who were actually somewhat violent, should have received some kind of punishment, but they’re due process was greatly violated first, the majority of those arrested did nothing but step foot into the capital, and they were found guilty until proven innocent held in solitary confinement in one of the nastiest jails in this country. Pretrial detention , over 40,000 hours of surveillance tape was suppressed and liberal judges, denied their rights to a defense, and said that they were getting a fair trial ha ha
This was the first time either side had the guts to question an election and just because it was conservatives didn’t give the Biden administration the right to treat these people worse than any war, criminal or terrorist
President Trump pardoned the “ process” .
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@missyann Why have due process if you don't believe in it?
missyann · 56-60
@SatanBurger American citizens are a category, even though they are no different from an illegal immigrant a gang member or a terrorist shouldn’t American citizen category get due process also
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@missyann The Constitution says persons not citizens
missyann · 56-60
@SatanBurger shouldn’t “ persons “ who were born in America, receive due process, along with illegal immigrants, gang members and terrorist?
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@missyann we should all receive due process no matter who you are.
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PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@missyann It is you who wants to take away due process from anyone not born on US soil for any reason.
And quit lying that anyone is threatening your rights.
And quit lying that anyone is threatening your rights.
missyann · 56-60
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Did I say anyone was threatening my rights ? No one’s threatening my rights
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@missyann [quoteAmerican citizens are a category, even though they are no different from an illegal immigrant a gang member or a terrorist shouldn’t American citizen category get due process also][/quote]
You are pretending US citizens do not get due process when the reality is the exact opposite.
You are pretending US citizens do not get due process when the reality is the exact opposite.