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Trump's deal to end the Ukraine war without Zelensky.

Zelensky, supported by the UK and EU, is defiant. Trump should accept minerals deal offer from Putin instead.

Putin's deal will be a cooperation between the US and Russia to mine rare earth minerals in the Donbas region. This provide a security umbrella against any attack from Ukraine. Any UK/EU military support for Ukrainian hostility will be treated as an attack on the US and Russia. This will put an end to the Ukraine war. There is no way for any military confrontation against two nuclear superpowers. Checkmate.
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Reminds me of how Chamberlain and Hitler carved up Czechoslovakia without any input from Czechoslovakians.

What happens when Zelensky ignores whatever deal Trump and Putin put together? World War III I guess.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom
Reminds me of how Chamberlain and Hitler carved up Czechoslovakia without any input from Czechoslovakians.

The weak doesn't count since Cain bashed Abel's head in. Deal with it. This is the human condition. Who is crying for the Palestinians? You?

What happens when Zelensky ignores whatever deal Trump and Putin put together? World War III I guess.

Zelensky ignores? He doesn't count. He was foisted on the Ukrainians by the CIA. Even Saddam, Gaddafi and Assad could be and were shoved aside. Zelensky is as critical to the geopolitics of Europe as an aging concubine is to the Emperor of China. He has outlived his usefulness to the Europeans and will be dumped anytime soon.

World War 3 will not happen because none of the nuclear superpowers (US, Russia, and China) has a reason for it. The UK and the EU have been having a free ride as guardian of world order at the expense of the US long enough. Without a sense of purpose, the EU will break up. It's disintegration is long overdue.
@sree251 Zelensky is more popular in Ukraine than your orange lord and savior is here. He wasn't "foisted" on anyone. The Ukrainian people were tired of their Russian puppet government.
@Kenworth4954 That will be followed by an insurgency that will make the one in Iraq look like a kindergarten. The Ukrainian people are well-armed and not interested in being a Russian vassal state.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom
Zelensky is more popular in Ukraine than your orange lord and savior is here. He wasn't "foisted" on anyone. The Ukrainian people were tired of their Russian puppet government.

I had a Polish maid who literally hated Russians, and showed it at the mention of them. She lived as a young girl in Poland before emigrating to the US. She would tell me about living conditions and how she had to share a building of apartments with other people. Apparently, life in communist Poland wasn't a picnic for her but then bad living conditions exist everywhere in the world communist or not. I have been all over Europe and Asia. Poor people live bad lives even here in the US. Our inner cities are the pits. One time I was at a public golf driving range on a visit to Chicago. The black guy in the next bay broke into a conversation with me. As it turned out, he worked as a driver of a garbage truck. I asked him about his job and if it was dangerous working in the city. He said no but it wasn't pretty. I asked him why, and he said the garbage bins had shit in them. People would crap in the bins? "I don't know, man," he said. Some of the inner city low rent apartments must have no plumbing.

So, don't put up a smug face when you talk to people in foreign countries you go to making out like America is a heavenly place.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom
That will be followed by an insurgency that will make the one in Iraq look like a kindergarten. The Ukrainian people are well-armed and not interested in being a Russian vassal state.

Present day Russia is not Soviet Russia when communism reigned supreme. Even China today is nothing like China in 1990. There are Americans living in Russia today. Peter Lavelle, an American commentator on RT, lives in Moscow. 6000 American companies operate in China. Think of the number of American expats living in China and loving it there. There is no reason for Ukrainians wanting to fight. The CIA there will not be instigating them to do so. There is a new sheriff in town in the USA.
@sree251 Russia isn't communist anymore, but it's still authoritarian. Same for China. How long have Putin and Xi been in power? And that's what you want for the US - for Trump to stay in office indefinitely.

The CIA isn't forcing the Ukrainians to fight. They just don't want to live under Russian domination again.

When did I ever tell people in foreign countries that America is heavenly? You must be talking about yourself.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom
Russia isn't communist anymore, but it's still authoritarian. Same for China. How long have Putin and Xi been in power? And that's what you want for the US - for Trump to stay in office indefinitely.

Authoritarian? China is indeed authoritarian. It's the authority of the people. The imposition of social order provides security for every individual regardless of net worth. There is no barrier to acquisition of wealth but the wealthy don't get to push the less fortunate around. In China, there are neither obnoxious celebrities nor hotshot public figures of the kind you suffer in America.

The CIA isn't forcing the Ukrainians to fight. They just don't want to live under Russian domination again.

There are neither Ukrainians nor Russians. There are just people of different cultural shades and they don't like each other. It's the same here in the US as reflected by the division in the recent Joint Session of Congress. The woke left is suffering now under the domination of the Trump right. The hatred is palpable. Just because there is no widespread outbreak of violence in America doesn't mean you are better off than people in Ukraine bearing the brunt of war. The not woke wish the woke are dead and vice versa.

When did I ever tell people in foreign countries that America is heavenly? You must be talking about yourself.

You don't have to tell them in so many words. Your attitude says it. You have no idea how loathsome you are to people in foreign lands.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@LeopoldBloom
They have celebrities in China; you just don't know who they are.

I am sure the Chinese have their favorite pop artistes but they share the social rank of street performers and prostitutes. Only in America are pop and movie stars adored, elevated to high society, and command a following powerful enough to wield political influence.

If you think conditions in the US are the same as in Ukraine, I'm not sure what to tell you. I haven't been bombed recently; maybe you have?

You may not been bombed but you might as well be dead to those around you. And believe me, you smell as bad as a rotting corpse to those, here in America, who hate you.

People in foreign countries feel bad for Americans like me who didn't vote for this shitshow. The loathsome Americans are the Trump fluffers like you.

Trump and his following are loved abroad except to the woke in the west.