How can the U.S. provide security guarantees to Ukraine when it is currently unable to stop Russia from attacking Ukraine?

It's akin to someone kicking the shit out of you while your friend stands by, saying, "I can't help you right now; I have a weak back. But next time, I got your back!"

What security guarantees are they going to give, exactly?

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PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M Best Comment

The only guarantee they can give is not to use Ukraine to provoke a war again in 10 years.

Jokersswild · 22-25VIP

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Does Putin have absolute power to make a deal by offering concessions without approval of the Federal Assembly or his Generals?

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@Jokersswild That is not where I was going with that exactly. One of the Russian's positions for years at this point is "you agree to neutrality like in 1991, and we don't march all the way to Lviv."

As long as Zelensky and company demand what is left of Ukraine be in NATO they will keep pushing west because they will not allow an enemy forward operating base on their border.

And to anyone who says "whatabout Sweden and Finland". Their armies are tiny. They are no threat even together.

Heartlander · 80-89, M

Ukraine once had nuclear weapons ... until Obama convinced them to exchange them for US guaranteed security.

swirlie · F

@Heartlander
...that warranty card is in the file someplace I'm sure! Hope they kept the receipt!

Roundandroundwego · 61-69

Security guarantees just support the war industry. Just smash something and you definitely go get sales. But you know how to sell war!

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swirlie · F

The USA has no backbone when it comes to Russia which is what this is really all about. If the USA did, then we wouldn't be having this discussion about Ukraine.

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swirlie · F

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow
...however, the USA has lost every war it ever started in the last 113 years.

Jokersswild · 22-25VIP

@swirlie Much of the world seem to forgive or conveniently forget the war crimes and atrocities committed by the USA

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@Jokersswild Yep. The only person who went to jail for the US torture scandal was the whistleblower.

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