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SW-User
He told Europe the truth. Vance said the erosion of free speech in Europe is a greater threat than Russia. Why are people being arrested for praying outside abortion clinics? He said America has been a peddler of wokeism too.
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markinkansas · 61-69, M
@SW-User Progressive or left-wing attitudes or practices, esp. those opposing social injustice or discrimination, and you see that as a bad thing.. are you against social injustice or discrimination or for it.. just asking

SW-User
@markinkansas you either meant to respond to someone else or have zero reading comprehension skills, given your politics I'm assuming i know which one
sree251 · 41-45, M
@markinkansas
What social injustice? Can you cite one?
are you against social injustice or discrimination or for it.. just asking
What social injustice? Can you cite one?
markinkansas · 61-69, M
@SW-User i responded to this person here is the quote.
emiliya Progressive or left-wing attitudes or practices, esp. those opposing social injustice or discrimination, and you see that as a bad thing.. are you against social injustice or discrimination or for it.. just asking
it was a quote of wokeism from the webster
sorry if thats you also.. i did not know you had a sec account
emiliya Progressive or left-wing attitudes or practices, esp. those opposing social injustice or discrimination, and you see that as a bad thing.. are you against social injustice or discrimination or for it.. just asking
it was a quote of wokeism from the webster
sorry if thats you also.. i did not know you had a sec account
markinkansas · 61-69, M
@sree251 Project 2025’s Distortion of Civil Rights Law Threatens Americans With Legalized Discrimination
Far-right extremists have a plan to dismantle many civil rights protections that have advanced equality in America over the past 60 years.
Hundreds of LGBTQI+ Resources Censored by the Trump Administration
Budget Committee Republicans Are Moving to Take Away Food and Health Care From Americans
here is three..
Far-right extremists have a plan to dismantle many civil rights protections that have advanced equality in America over the past 60 years.
Hundreds of LGBTQI+ Resources Censored by the Trump Administration
Budget Committee Republicans Are Moving to Take Away Food and Health Care From Americans
here is three..

SW-User
@markinkansas There is no social injustice. What business are the ills of other people to you, I, or the state? The government isn't there to be your hero. What do you think God is for?
markinkansas · 61-69, M
@SW-User there is no god .. what do you think the goverment is for.. by the people for the people..
sree251 · 41-45, M
@markinkansas
We all feel threatened by opposing viewpoints that is allowed in a free society. The last time at the store, a man in woman's clothing was the cashier checking out my groceries. It threw me for a loop, and it was uncomfortable for me to interact with him. I just stuffed it. The law allows him to come on like a woman in a public space. Supporters of Project 2025 have a right to their viewpoints also. Don't you agree? If not, then someone needs to protest the store and have that guy taken off the check out station.
Advanced equality? Allowing men to parade around in public as women is advancement? We are not wired up to deal with gender equality to the point of cognitive confusion. Do you people think it is fun?
Be specific so that we get things right in our discussion. What resources?
You are not being clear about your accusation. No specifics again.
All three are accusations of an unspecified kind. Can you spit out your complaints in a way that can enable the filing of a complaint in a court of law?
Project 2025’s Distortion of Civil Rights Law Threatens Americans With Legalized Discrimination
We all feel threatened by opposing viewpoints that is allowed in a free society. The last time at the store, a man in woman's clothing was the cashier checking out my groceries. It threw me for a loop, and it was uncomfortable for me to interact with him. I just stuffed it. The law allows him to come on like a woman in a public space. Supporters of Project 2025 have a right to their viewpoints also. Don't you agree? If not, then someone needs to protest the store and have that guy taken off the check out station.
Far-right extremists have a plan to dismantle many civil rights protections that have advanced equality in America over the past 60 years.
Advanced equality? Allowing men to parade around in public as women is advancement? We are not wired up to deal with gender equality to the point of cognitive confusion. Do you people think it is fun?
Hundreds of LGBTQI+ Resources Censored by the Trump Administration
Be specific so that we get things right in our discussion. What resources?
Budget Committee Republicans Are Moving to Take Away Food and Health Care From Americans
You are not being clear about your accusation. No specifics again.
here is three..
All three are accusations of an unspecified kind. Can you spit out your complaints in a way that can enable the filing of a complaint in a court of law?

SW-User
@markinkansas Do you think the people would vote for LGBT nonsense? In the 2024 presidential election, Americans voted against it. What are you going to do when the people don't agree with you?
“there is no God.”
This means you have led a sheltered life. Why don't you open your mind?
“there is no God.”
This means you have led a sheltered life. Why don't you open your mind?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@markinkansas
The government is by the (crooked) people in government for the people (with no power).
there is no god .. what do you think the goverment is for.. by the people for the people..
The government is by the (crooked) people in government for the people (with no power).
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@SW-User His accusation is wildly exaggerrated. "People" are not being arrested for praying outside abortion clinics. I think he is referring to one incident.
Expressing an opinion is one thing. Doing so in a way that intimidates others, is another.
Freedom of expression and other rights are precious, but so are responsibilites, and to overturn the latter overturns the former.
Where he could have a point is the growing rise of hard-line political ideologies; and of the growing miasma of "misinformation" (including downright lies), bullying, manipulation and othewr wrongs on [anti]social-media.
As for "woke"... does any one know its real origin? Perhaps those who throw the word around as blunt sneer do not. It is a slang version of "awake" or "woken" - to injustice and oppression.
Expressing an opinion is one thing. Doing so in a way that intimidates others, is another.
Freedom of expression and other rights are precious, but so are responsibilites, and to overturn the latter overturns the former.
Where he could have a point is the growing rise of hard-line political ideologies; and of the growing miasma of "misinformation" (including downright lies), bullying, manipulation and othewr wrongs on [anti]social-media.
As for "woke"... does any one know its real origin? Perhaps those who throw the word around as blunt sneer do not. It is a slang version of "awake" or "woken" - to injustice and oppression.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@ArishMell
Etymology is an old word of a bygone era.
This is what they say - injustice and oppression. Are men oppressed when they are expected to dressed like men? Are women oppressed when they are told to be chaste and virtuous?
As for "woke"... does any one know its real origin?
Etymology is an old word of a bygone era.
Perhaps those who throw the word around as blunt sneer do not. It is a slang version of "awake" or "woken" - to injustice and oppression.
This is what they say - injustice and oppression. Are men oppressed when they are expected to dressed like men? Are women oppressed when they are told to be chaste and virtuous?

SW-User
@ArishMell Vance was giving particular attention to UK, where several people have been arrested in recent years for praying or silently standing near abortion clinics. It may as well be illegal in woke Britain. There are caveats to the law, meaning the police can arrest anyone praying outside the horrible UK baby-killing clinics. Where is the wild exaggeration?
“Perhaps those who throw the word around as blunt sneer do not. It is a slang version of "awake" or "woken" - to injustice and oppression.”
You aren't my Father, go and preach to someone else.
“Perhaps those who throw the word around as blunt sneer do not. It is a slang version of "awake" or "woken" - to injustice and oppression.”
You aren't my Father, go and preach to someone else.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@SW-User Being rude to anyone who questions you, rather proves my point. I don't know why those particular protestors were arrested but it's very likely the complainants were staff or patients who felt intimidated by mere strangers trying to interfere with their own, very difficult decision.

SW-User
@ArishMell Why do you assume their motivations? Are they there to interfere or there to pray?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@ArishMell
Such people? This may well be true but such people are not all the people who follow the norm of society. I am such people also when I exceed the speed limit on a highway and weave in and out changing lanes at will to the annoyance of other road users. Should I be stopped by the police and thrown into jail. Yes.
Prejudice is going to be reinforced as AI takes over the organization of society. Anomalies will be weeded out to enhance speed and efficiency for all.
Such people could think themselves "oppressed", indeed, if pressured into obeying dictats like that. I think so too.
Such people? This may well be true but such people are not all the people who follow the norm of society. I am such people also when I exceed the speed limit on a highway and weave in and out changing lanes at will to the annoyance of other road users. Should I be stopped by the police and thrown into jail. Yes.
The era is not really bygone, is it? All that's happened is that the pressures have changed - or expanded. Prejudice is still alive and well, sadly.
Prejudice is going to be reinforced as AI takes over the organization of society. Anomalies will be weeded out to enhance speed and efficiency for all.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@SW-User I don't assume. I do not know their motives; but if I were a patient I would not want some stranger trying to "pray" for me, and in such a sensitive situation may even find it intimidating. Or would my feelings not matter? If he or she wants to pray for me, let 'em do so at home or in chapel.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@sree251 The "such people" are the victims, and the examples you give are generally far more accepted than in the past - Thank Goodness.
AI: A good point! Frightening prospect, isn't it? But if AI takes over it is because people have let it, possibly for their own purposes not common good.
AI: A good point! Frightening prospect, isn't it? But if AI takes over it is because people have let it, possibly for their own purposes not common good.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@ArishMell
Frightening in one aspect: it will do all the thinking for us.
Right now, we rely on crooked politicians. Machines are incorruptible. They can be programmed to run society extracting from each his best, and to provide for all their needs.
AI: A good point! Frightening prospect, isn't it? But if AI takes over it is because people have let it, possibly for their own purposes not common good.
Frightening in one aspect: it will do all the thinking for us.
Right now, we rely on crooked politicians. Machines are incorruptible. They can be programmed to run society extracting from each his best, and to provide for all their needs.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User Russia is a beacon of free speech! /S 🤣

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@Burnley123 Was this intended to be a meaningful comment?
MartinII · 70-79, M
@markinkansas But progressive or left-wing attitudes support discrimination as much as they oppose it.
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