If the U.S. "buys" Gaza from Israel, won't that make 2 million Palestinians into American nationals?
What will Trump's MAGA base think of that? 🤔
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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
And what happens to the west Bank? And the rest of Palestine?
The Gaza strip is tiny!
Just allow Israel to cut into the West Bank and the Golan heights?
Here is the graphical history of the area!
Israel WILL not stop until the first frame is reached.
Just the latest on the Golan heights since Assad has left Syria.
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/23/g-s1-43325/syria-golan-heights-israel
Trump says nothing about it.
This war will NEVER STOP!
The Gaza strip is tiny!
Just allow Israel to cut into the West Bank and the Golan heights?
Here is the graphical history of the area!
Israel WILL not stop until the first frame is reached.
Just the latest on the Golan heights since Assad has left Syria.
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/23/g-s1-43325/syria-golan-heights-israel
Trump says nothing about it.
This war will NEVER STOP!
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@DeWayfarer all trump’s words and Netty’s agreement do is give wind to the critics that claim Israel has always wanted to rid the area of Palestinians and were only looking for an excuse and support.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@trollslayer another recent example of the expansion in the Golan heights...
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-02-02/ty-article/satellite-images-reportedly-show-idf-bases-in-syrian-golan-pointing-to-long-term-stay/00000194-c7f9-d533-a3b6-cfffb33b0000
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-02-02/ty-article/satellite-images-reportedly-show-idf-bases-in-syrian-golan-pointing-to-long-term-stay/00000194-c7f9-d533-a3b6-cfffb33b0000
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@DeWayfarer didn’t Israel take the Golan during an invasion against them ?
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@AthrillatheHunt by the UN it's still Syria's. Yet Israel is taking advantage of the fact that Asada, as well as the Russians, is gone. They have slowly included it into their sphere of influence little bit by little bit.
They really want to go all the way to Turkey.
Look at that first frame, of the second image, in my original comment. Keep in mind that Damascus is totally in Syria.
Please remember that the Euphrates river is a holey river to even Jewish people. That is why they stopped at Turkey thousands of years ago. They don't care about even Lebanon. It's not apart of the old Kingdom of David.
That's their goal. Palestine is just a start. It's endless war they want. Because all the Arabs know exactly what they want. Muslims are Abrahamic as well.
They really want to go all the way to Turkey.
Look at that first frame, of the second image, in my original comment. Keep in mind that Damascus is totally in Syria.
Please remember that the Euphrates river is a holey river to even Jewish people. That is why they stopped at Turkey thousands of years ago. They don't care about even Lebanon. It's not apart of the old Kingdom of David.
That's their goal. Palestine is just a start. It's endless war they want. Because all the Arabs know exactly what they want. Muslims are Abrahamic as well.
LeopoldBloom · M
@DeWayfarer If Israel wanted "the first frame" they would have it already. Yes, there is a faction in Israel that wants to restore its historical borders, just as there is a faction among Palestinians that wants a pure Arab ethnostate "from the river to the sea." The difference is that there is no desire among the Israeli public to capture that land, and no ability to administer it if they did.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom under this administration it will grow.
It's no different than here. Maga's here didn't need everyone to receive a dictator that has complete control over the nuclear codes or the military.
It's no different than with Netanyahu. Neither you nor I have anything to say about what the leaders actually will do.
And it only takes little bit by little bit. Until eventually Israel will have the whole thing.
It's what happened with Jerusalem. The east side belonged to Palestine once. And now it doesn't.
Same thing with the Golan heights. The Golan heights was once bigger. And now it's taking Gaza.
Little bit by little bit is the plan. Let the people get use to the idea and they will accept it.
What is happening is a chapter right out of Sun Tzu's the art of war.
It's no different than here. Maga's here didn't need everyone to receive a dictator that has complete control over the nuclear codes or the military.
It's no different than with Netanyahu. Neither you nor I have anything to say about what the leaders actually will do.
And it only takes little bit by little bit. Until eventually Israel will have the whole thing.
It's what happened with Jerusalem. The east side belonged to Palestine once. And now it doesn't.
Same thing with the Golan heights. The Golan heights was once bigger. And now it's taking Gaza.
Little bit by little bit is the plan. Let the people get use to the idea and they will accept it.
What is happening is a chapter right out of Sun Tzu's the art of war.
LeopoldBloom · M
@DeWayfarer Israel has no interest in "the whole thing" and no ability to occupy it if they did. You're confusing them with Hamas, which wants a pure Arab ethnostate "from the river to the sea" with no Jews in it.
East Jerusalem never belonged to Palestine. After the Romans left, it passed between several Arab caliphates, the Crusaders had it for a while, and in modern times it was under the Ottomans, then the British Mandate, then Jordan until 1967.
The Golan Heights were also never Palestinian. They belonged to Syria and Israel captured them for their own security.
This happened almost 60 years ago. If Israel intended to capture parts of Jordan, Syria, and Iraq, they would have done it by now.
East Jerusalem never belonged to Palestine. After the Romans left, it passed between several Arab caliphates, the Crusaders had it for a while, and in modern times it was under the Ottomans, then the British Mandate, then Jordan until 1967.
The Golan Heights were also never Palestinian. They belonged to Syria and Israel captured them for their own security.
This happened almost 60 years ago. If Israel intended to capture parts of Jordan, Syria, and Iraq, they would have done it by now.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom No, you don't want to recognize human nature. Rome conquered the whole of the middle east for the same reason.
The people of Rome didn't want it!
You put in leaders like King David, Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Hitler, Mao Zedong, Putin, Netanyahu, or even Trump, they will ALL conquer!
Yet how they will conquer is different.
You really think the democratic people of Greece wanted Alexander the Great to conquer what he did? 🤷🏻♂
They lived with the decision though. They went along with it.
The same for ALL the rest.
If the people LET such type of people in power, they better expect exactly what they LET in power.
All these so called leaders in history where WRONG!
How they did it doesn't matter. Just the fact that they ALL expanded their territories is what matters.
They should never have been allowed to have been LET in power to begin with.
The people of Rome didn't want it!
You put in leaders like King David, Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Hitler, Mao Zedong, Putin, Netanyahu, or even Trump, they will ALL conquer!
Yet how they will conquer is different.
You really think the democratic people of Greece wanted Alexander the Great to conquer what he did? 🤷🏻♂
They lived with the decision though. They went along with it.
The same for ALL the rest.
If the people LET such type of people in power, they better expect exactly what they LET in power.
All these so called leaders in history where WRONG!
How they did it doesn't matter. Just the fact that they ALL expanded their territories is what matters.
They should never have been allowed to have been LET in power to begin with.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom they certainly could have. If that’s what they wanted .
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@AthrillatheHunt I keep saying this yet that's not the problem.
It's the dictators in charge. They are the one's that want to the most.
Keeping them in check is the problem. You can't.
Little bit by little bit the dictators will take. Unleash them they will wipe everything out.
A example of unleashed is Genghis kan!
It's the dictators in charge. They are the one's that want to the most.
Keeping them in check is the problem. You can't.
Little bit by little bit the dictators will take. Unleash them they will wipe everything out.
A example of unleashed is Genghis kan!
LeopoldBloom · M
@DeWayfarer From what I hear, the IDF is getting tired of Bibi.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom that won't stop him anymore then he will stop Putin.