Can someone explain to me what the Black Lives Matter organization is about and why some people are so upset about it?
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CheshireCatalyst · 36-40, M
Black people in parts of the US are being discriminated against by an institutionally racist police and criminal justice system, with guns. Because of this many black men are being shot dead either while being completely innocent or while running from a petty crime.
Black lives matter is not trying to suggest that other lives do not matter, it's an attempt by the black community - hopefully with the support of people from other ethnic backgrounds - to highlight this issue and stop the unnecessary deaths of black people at the hands of the police.
People don't like it because they either see it as a way of suggesting that black lives are more important than others, or because they don't understand how much of a privilege is it to be white in parts of the US. They think that black people - or people of any other race - being given more power and freedom is a bad thing because it is being taken away from them, but white people - including me - have enjoyed privilege for too long, it's time for things to be equal.
Black lives matter is not trying to suggest that other lives do not matter, it's an attempt by the black community - hopefully with the support of people from other ethnic backgrounds - to highlight this issue and stop the unnecessary deaths of black people at the hands of the police.
People don't like it because they either see it as a way of suggesting that black lives are more important than others, or because they don't understand how much of a privilege is it to be white in parts of the US. They think that black people - or people of any other race - being given more power and freedom is a bad thing because it is being taken away from them, but white people - including me - have enjoyed privilege for too long, it's time for things to be equal.
MetalGreymon · 36-40, M
That was the impression i had. But people seem to think it's a racist organization
Firespirit · 26-30, M
Sicarium · 46-50, M
[quote]Black people in parts of the US are being discriminated against by an institutionally racist police and criminal justice system...[/quote]
False. Statistics prove that is false narrative.
[quote]Black lives matter is not trying to suggest that other lives do not matter[/quote]
False. BLM is constantly screaming racism whenever anyone says all lives matter. To them, only black lives matter. And not even all black lives because they won't touch black on black violence.
[quote]People don't like it because they either see it as a way of suggesting that black lives are more important than others[/quote]
False. People don't like it because BLM is a hate group born from a lie and perpetuating racial tensions and violence.
[quote]...white people - including me - have enjoyed privilege for too long, it's time for things to be equal[/quote]
False. White privilege is a lie perpetuated by white liberals who want to guilt everyone into going along with their radical social agendas and wealth distribution.
False. Statistics prove that is false narrative.
[quote]Black lives matter is not trying to suggest that other lives do not matter[/quote]
False. BLM is constantly screaming racism whenever anyone says all lives matter. To them, only black lives matter. And not even all black lives because they won't touch black on black violence.
[quote]People don't like it because they either see it as a way of suggesting that black lives are more important than others[/quote]
False. People don't like it because BLM is a hate group born from a lie and perpetuating racial tensions and violence.
[quote]...white people - including me - have enjoyed privilege for too long, it's time for things to be equal[/quote]
False. White privilege is a lie perpetuated by white liberals who want to guilt everyone into going along with their radical social agendas and wealth distribution.
abe182 · 46-50, M
That's what they pretend to be. We can all agree that black lives matter. ALL LIVES MATTER.
CheshireCatalyst · 36-40, M
@UnparalleledMonster: it's hard for people to be told that they need to give something up, it's a big part of the reason Trump is in power now. He promised white people that he'd make them important again, well they still are important, but part of the process of equality is giving up the power and the privilege we have. We didn't earn it. We stole it hundreds of years ago and we've been clinging on ever since.
CheshireCatalyst · 36-40, M
@Sicarium: Saying it doesn't make it true. When you try to prove these things you're saying, don't look on right wing sites, look somewhere unbiased.
NorthernRoses · 26-30, F
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@ChasingBrainBros: I could use the same quote against you. It's meaningless, and you know it.
CheshireCatalyst · 36-40, M
@Sicarium: But I can highlight hundreds of years of history, and examples from recent history of young black men being shot by police while going about their business, or the guys in Baltimore who were thrown in a police van and slammed into the walls. You can provide me with the word 'false' a lot.
sweetiepiehuggs · 41-45, F
While there reasons for starting BLM was good its gotten out of hand. Yes we do have corrupt police who have killed black men without reason but that's not always been the case. Their protests have lead to good cops being killed. They have created more havoc than peace. I see them as nothing more than extremist's. There's ways to get your point across without meeting violence with violence.
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@ChasingBrainBros: Of course you can find examples of young black men shot by cops. That's obvious. That does not equate to institutional racism. Since you're so caught up on me having to prove my case while you can make whatever claims you want, here you go. We'll see if you have the courage and honesty to actually look at them. I doubt it.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/7347/7-statistics-show-systemic-racism-doesnt-exist-aaron-bandler
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2016/04/27/this-study-found-race-matters-in-police-shootings-but-the-results-may-surprise-you/
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429094/study-black-lives-matter-wrong-about-police
And before you whine about the sources because it's not HuffPo or the NYT, all articles are very well documented, too the point that they link directly to the raw data. They're not making unsubstantiated claims like you're usual sources do.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/7347/7-statistics-show-systemic-racism-doesnt-exist-aaron-bandler
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2016/04/27/this-study-found-race-matters-in-police-shootings-but-the-results-may-surprise-you/
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429094/study-black-lives-matter-wrong-about-police
And before you whine about the sources because it's not HuffPo or the NYT, all articles are very well documented, too the point that they link directly to the raw data. They're not making unsubstantiated claims like you're usual sources do.
CheshireCatalyst · 36-40, M
@Sicarium: The first and third articles are in conservative publications. I'm not reading them, and I wouldn't expect you to read through and trust anything in a biased liberal publication.
The second is a genuinely fascinating read. I've looked up the study too and I'm going to have a proper read through later.
Answer me this though, if you could live in a completely equal country, would you want that regardless of the cost?
The second is a genuinely fascinating read. I've looked up the study too and I'm going to have a proper read through later.
Answer me this though, if you could live in a completely equal country, would you want that regardless of the cost?
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@ChasingBrainBros: Regardless of the political leanings, the articles are well documented and, like I said, link directly to the raw data. If you will not read them, it is due to your own intellectual cowardice. And that is the problem. The evidence to completely refute everything you're saying is out there, but you will not see it because you only care about ideology and agendas. You are not interested in truth. So you will continue spreading a false narrative.
No, I wouldn't. The only way you can ensure a completely equal society is to remove all traces of individualism, at every level. I will never support that. I will fight against it. Literally.
No, I wouldn't. The only way you can ensure a completely equal society is to remove all traces of individualism, at every level. I will never support that. I will fight against it. Literally.