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The Overton Window

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

I spent 3 minutes reading the main website for this "theory", and noticed it is a mostly right wing "theory", and Glen Beck ever wrote a book on it.

It appears to be in the domain of propositional logic, and links assertions with a range of acceptability of assertions the pulkic will accept in a spectrum. I haven't seen what evidence exists for how this spectrum is established other than they fall in the middle of two extremes within a domain that contradict.

Is this really what you are so excited about? I can give you some titles to some books on propositional logic. My two favorites are Aristotle's square and Dignaga's circle. Both use a far more complex theory than the Overton Window. Both produced commentators who massively built upon them. And neither sit on the left vs right spectrum. Others exist too. You should get into the history of it and not merely embrace some pop theory built upon them.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
I don't always agree with Pics and I have no idea about the disagreement in the OP, but the Overton Window is a common term in political lexicon.

It describes something clearly observable: What is possible to say or do politically in a given time or the place.

This text is a secondary source (Primary source would be just reading Aristotle or Boethius' writings), a collection of essays on current research on The Square of Opposition. When you see the square in that book cover on a essay or another book (same color scheme), it is for propositional logic by the same organization.

That Square was turned into a Octogon in the middle ages. It's now the foundation of computer programming.

I use it more for OSINT Hostage Location, map making, hermeunetics, as well as research into new types of inference.

After you look into that, look up the Jain rebuttal to propositional logic (I've been reconstructing their logic for a while), and then look into Dignaga's Hekuchakra. I'd do Dignaga last as most people don't grasp how it is similar at first.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Motzu
I'm just more curious why he, a avowed socialist, is obsessed with using something seen as right wing thought.

It's not seen as rightwing. As a concept, it's pretty much politically neutral. It has been used to describe how Western societies have moved to the right (at least on economic policy since the 1980s. The tenants of neoliberalism used to be seen as radical right but have become common sense.

The above argument is most commonly made by people on the left!

If you see it commonly discussed in your political circles, it's because you are swimming in the shallow end of the intellectual pool. I don't read Glen Beck or follow Fox News (which is what I saw most commonly cited on Google).

You clearly have training in philosophy but it's a bit much to call me out for swimming in the shallow end of the intellectual pool. I also don't read Glenn Beck or follow Fox News! 🤣

I read books about history and politics. The political commentators I follow are Marxists and Keynesians.

Maybe I'm not up to your level but so it goes!
@Burnley123 I didn't accuse you but pictures. He isn't responding.

And propositional logic shouldn't be restricted by political group, race, or nation, it is supposed to be universal. When it isn't, we have a problem. I only encountered this twice, and the first time left no imprint except with specialists like myself looking at it like a curiosity (was a French revolutionary scheme that is quite original and nobody followed up on or bothered to translate his work), and the other is a Indian concept called "invariable concomitance", and come across it in Hindu and Buddhist works of logic. I've asked old abbots of buddhist monasteries what it means, and they just giggle and look elsewhere in the room until I leave them alone. I've asked a few indian logicians, they start off saying sure, we'll explain it, and then they fail to explain it and tell me to ask someone else.

Only one book has been written on it, this one:


And he uses allegory to explain it, but everytime he explains it, he says it is similar to that but not quite, let's use another explanation, and does it about 400 more times. Then he suddenly restarts the text half way through, and tries to explain it via a very differnet method. And he never fucking explained it. I tried emailing him, but he managed to die right before I bought the text.

So 99% of the terms developed through history are universal.

But from a quick glance, the Overton Window seems to be a american right wing (by right wind we don't mean european right, american right is a very different creature) fixation. I don't know why, it's too shallow of a concept for me to waste anymore time on, but even the main website says as much.

 
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