Poor Bernie, he got daggered by the democratic party, even had to witness the republicans win on all fronts... Let's just hope the old man passes away peacefully from that hemorrhoid instead of the inevitable heart attack when europe rallies behind Le Pen.
@Jackjjacksonjr: I am a member of the UK Labour Party and I support Jeremy Corbyn. I don't like May's Conservatives and since Brexit she has moved them closer to UKIP. Brexit will be bad for us but unfortunately Labour is divided so can't take advantage of the shit that the Conservatives are doing.
I debate US politics as down-time largely because its at one remove so it depresses me less. But, yes I am very much involved in the politics of my own country.
2017, it's gonna be such a great year. We already got like Trump and Putin in a bromance. If Benjamin Netanyahu joins in and Le Pen or Fillon wins in France, we are talking about a true shift in the western worlds political makeup. It's gonna be great, so great. Coupled with Brexit we might get rid of The EU, see a mighty Israel with close support of it's allies, get rid political correctness and bring down Merkel.
@Jackjjacksonjr: My Government could do much better. I live in a rented shared house in London. I am technically middle-income but it doesn't feel like it. Britain, London especially has a huge housing shortage and won't build new ones because landlords vote for them (the Cons).
I could move out but I like my life in London for now. I'm a teacher and the Government keeps making pay and conditions worse but making us do 50+ hour weeks. I am not destitute and life could be worse. Some of the parents of the kids I teach do struggle to get by but the feeling is that this country has seen better days.
@kingofthenorth87: As a Scandanavian, you are lucky to live in perhaps the one pocket of true social democracy. You can moan about the forces that actually protect you whilst telling the rest of the world to stand back and let it burn because of grievances they have. ;-)
@Burnley123: that's kind of what my point is. All of us worldwide in long established countries "have seen better days". So why support the same old same old. Here Mrs Clinton represented the same old. Mr Trump is far from perfect but at least for now doesn't appear to be the same old and I think he should be given a chance. Same applies in the UK and the rest of the EU. I'm obviously not alone in my opinion or in any way against the common good
@Jackjjacksonjr: I don't think you are alone at all. Trumps does not represent economic equality though. A bad situation can get worse. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see it.
@Burnley123: well... what you are saying about the "greatness" of the Norwegian social Democracy with it's large welfare state. It's widely believed that norway has succeded because of their Bernie Sanders like policies, but if you scratch the surface, you will find out that Norway succeded despite the welfare state.
See this fine video of an Economist explaining this:
fine, I understand, 1 hour video is a bit of a stretch. But if you want a serious discussion about an issue of this magnitude, with various interpretations, perspectives, biase's and paradighm's - it's gonna get long... What's interesting is that the best perspectives on Scandinavia I have seen has been from immigrant kurds and Iranian scholars. They have a much better perspective since they can see the culture from the outside, and are not too "invested" in a typical Scandinavian worldview.
I'm not. Just a lesser evil in my view. I voted to remain in the EU even though I dislike the EU almost as much as own neo liberal rulers. I am a socialist and I support Jeremy Corbyn. He is kind of like the British Bernie but more anti establishment.
@Burnley123: there is another way to be anti establishment you know. Rather than a huge change to socialism, getting rid of the class of professional politicians. Government should be run like a business and it's scope limited to what the cItizens need e.g. safety, public infrastructure, etc. and not spending money dictating social policy. My hope in that is the Trump plan for the US and for Europe as the liberals and socialists are replaced.
@Jackjjacksonjr: Trouble with that is you are replacing the establishment with something else. Its not Government that I'm against but how its used. I see corporate power and state power as intertwined anyway. To make a country socialist would be a huge change I know but for me its the best way.
Yeah, you should definetly come to norway or Scandinavia Burnley. Your political views would fit in well with the majority cucks/socialists who run the place. Just Dodge the shitholes like the Capital of Norway, all of sweden and the thinly populated ares of Northern Scandinavia. If you by any chance forget my fair advide of staying out of sweden and happen to find yourself there. REMEMBER, DO NOT, and I mean, DO NOT! Enter the no-go zones. Try aiming for cities in Norway like Bergen, Trondheim, Stavanger or Tromsø.
There is no problem with immigration from culturally similar people that match the local Norwegian population in education and work ethics. That includes secular/atheistical Iranians, koreans, poles, brits, sri-lankians, educated secular indians etc.
The only real problem comes with mass immigration from poor and backwards muslim countries like Afghanistan, Somalia, iraq and Syria. Where they realistically can never be intergrated, cost the welfare state a fortune and bring all the societal problems you can expect with the introduction of Islam.
