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On Face The Nation JD Vance Defends The Lies

JD Vance defends amplifying false claims about immigrants, saying "you're never going to get this stuff perfect."

By Kaia Hubbard/ politics reporter for CBS News Digital, based in Washington, D.C.

Washington — Sen. JD Vance, the Republican nominee for vice president, on Sunday defended amplifying debunked claims about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, while refusing to correct the record amid threats to the community in recent days.

"People are frustrated with the national media attention. Some people are also grateful that finally, someone is paying attention to what's going on," Vance, Ohio's junior senator, said on "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan." "You're never going to get this stuff perfect."

Vance and former President Donald Trump, along with other allies, have amplified baseless rumors about immigrants in the Ohio city in recent days. On Sept. 9, Vance wrote in a post on X that people "have had their pets abducted and eaten by people who shouldn't be in this country," while putting the blame on the Biden-Harris administration. Then, Trump reiterated the claim during the presidential debate against Vice President Kamala Harris, before pledging to deport the legal Haitian immigrants to Venezuela days later.

Meanwhile, there have been bomb threats in recent days against schools and hospitals in the Springfield area, according to officials, sending hospitals into lockdowns and prompting multiple schools to evacuate.

Vance condemned the threats of violence on Sunday, making clear that the individuals who made the threats should be "prosecuted to the full extent of the law." But he added that "we don't believe in a heckler's veto in this country."

"You can condemn violence, on the one hand, while also saying that there have been terrible problems caused by Kamala Harris' open border in Springfield," Vance said.

When asked about members of the Proud Boys marching through Springfield on Saturday, Vance said while he doesn't align himself with the views of the far-right group, the development is being used as a distraction from the larger issues facing Springfield.

"I am much more concerned about the vice president of the United States failing to do her job than I am that a dozen people carried the wrong flag when they were marching in Springfield, Ohio, yesterday," Vance added.

On the claims related to immigrants eating pets, Vance said he's heard "about a dozen things" from constituents, 10 of which he said are verifiable.

Springfield's police chief, mayor and Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine, a Republican, have all made clear that there have been no credible reports of pets being stolen and eaten by immigrants. And while DeWine refuted the claim to CBS News last week, the governor acknowledged that there are challenges that come with 15,000 immigrants settling in a city with a population of just under 60,000 in the last couple of years — like health care systems being overloaded.

Vance pointed to the significant increase of immigrants moving to Springfield, arguing that the toll on the city's health care and education systems has amounted to a "terrible tragedy."

We're not mad at Haitian migrants for wanting to have a better life," Vance said. "We're angry at Kamala Harris for letting this happen to a small Ohio town. And thank God Donald Trump has called attention to it and would fight back against these policies if the American people reward him with the presidency."

Vance has blamed Harris for implementing a program that brought the immigrants to Ohio. Under the temporary protected status program, thousands of immigrants from countries experiencing armed conflict or environmental disasters have been provided deportation protections and work permits under multiple administrations.

Vance claimed inaccurately on Sunday that Trump extended the Temporary Protected Status for Haiti in 2017 before ending it in 2018. But the status, which was first created in 2010 and extended by the Obama administration multiple times, was also extended in 2020 after the Trump administration's effort to bring an end to the status was struck down in court. It has since been extended by the Biden administration.

Vance also reiterated the baseless claims about immigrants eating pets on Saturday, responding on X to a video that alleged immigrants in Dayton, Ohio, were eating cats.

"Kamala Harris and her media apparatchiks should be ashamed of themselves," the Ohio Republican said. "Another 'debunked' story that turned out to have merit."

Police in Dayton, Ohio, said Saturday that there is no evidence immigrants are eating pets, calling the claims "outlandish."

Asked about the newest claim on Sunday, Vance said by sharing it, he was representing his Ohio constituents and their concerns.

"Everybody who has dealt with a large influx of migration knows that sometimes there are cultural practices that seem very far out there to a lot of Americans. Are we not allowed to talk about this in the United States of America?" Vance said. "I'm going to talk about what my constituents are sending me."

Maryland Gov. Wes Moore, a surrogate for the Harris campaign who also appeared Sunday on "Face the Nation," said that while the federal government should do more on border security, "what we're seeing from from both Donald Trump and JD Vance is we're receiving political talking points, but we're not receiving actually actionable ideas to be able to address the issue."
The Wall St Journal published an in-depth article about how the pet-eating rumors spread despite zero evidence. MSN re-published it without paywall.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/how-the-trump-campaign-ran-with-rumors-about-pet-eating-migrants-after-being-told-they-weren-t-true/ar-AA1qKCRb

The Wall Street Journal - Sept 18
How the Trump Campaign Ran With Rumors About Pet-Eating Migrants—After Being Told They Weren’t True

SPRINGFIELD, Ohio—City Manager Bryan Heck fielded an unusual question at City Hall on the morning of Sept. 9, from a staff member of Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance. The staffer called to ask if there was any truth to bizarre rumors about Haitian immigrants and pets in Springfield.

“He asked point-blank, ‘Are the rumors true of pets being taken and eaten?’” recalled Heck. “I told him no. There was no verifiable evidence or reports to show this was true. I told them these claims were baseless.”

By then, Vance had already posted about the rumors to his 1.9 million followers on X. Yet he kept the post up, and repeated an even more insistent version of the claim the next morning. ...

... Thirty-six bomb threats had been logged as of Tuesday evening. ...

... “We have told those at the national level that they are speaking these things that are untrue,” added Springfield Mayor Rob Rue, a registered Republican. But he said claims have been “repeated and doubled down on.”

Vance insisted on CNN this past Sunday that he had firsthand accounts of the incidents from constituents, but the media had paid no attention to migrant problems in American cities “until Donald Trump and I started talking about cat memes.” He added, “If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do.”

 
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