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Rolexeo · 26-30, M
Lauren Chen, not Lauren Southern. The left is now pretending they actually give a fuck on a moral level and like they're patriots all of a sudden. In reality they're all over it because they hate the right and russia. If politicians are being paid by Ukraine, the middle east, etc to push narratives then it's a-ok.
Lucia · 36-40
@Bel6EQUJ5 Depends on which ones you mean. But obviously any true american, fighting for america, will hold the interests of americans first.
I really don't think anyone but people who earn money on the opposite can disagree with this.
And it doesn't matter if it is Trump, Biden, Harris or Bush doing wrong. Rules should apply to everyone - and no one should be above the law.
I really don't think anyone but people who earn money on the opposite can disagree with this.
And it doesn't matter if it is Trump, Biden, Harris or Bush doing wrong. Rules should apply to everyone - and no one should be above the law.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Rolexeo No it's both Lauren Southern and Lauren Chen, they were both named in the indictment and in the indictment it said that Southern specifically had asked by text when Russia pays them.
Also where am I acting like a patriot? I never said I hated the United States that badly that I would approve of treason.
It sounds like you just read my post, got mad and wanted to just put any grievance because you got emotional 😭 😆
Also where am I acting like a patriot? I never said I hated the United States that badly that I would approve of treason.
It sounds like you just read my post, got mad and wanted to just put any grievance because you got emotional 😭 😆
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Rolexeo
https://www.cbc.ca/news/investigates/russian-influence-election-tenet-media-chen-southern-1.7314976
But Southern and Chen have yet to speak publicly. Reached by phone on Thursday, Chen told CBC News, "We're not commenting at this time." Southern did not respond to email.
Neither has posted anything online since the indictment was made public.
Neither has posted anything online since the indictment was made public.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/investigates/russian-influence-election-tenet-media-chen-southern-1.7314976
Rolexeo · 26-30, M
@SatanBurger Lauren Chen and Lauren Southern are both Canadian citizens, not American lmao
I fail to see how it's treason to say to not go to war with Russia, they barely talk about Russia.
I'm just pointing out the truth, you guys only care cause it's the right, if it was the left taking money from foreign countries you wouldn't care.
I fail to see how it's treason to say to not go to war with Russia, they barely talk about Russia.
I'm just pointing out the truth, you guys only care cause it's the right, if it was the left taking money from foreign countries you wouldn't care.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Rolexeo
That wasn't your original argument, your original argument said that it was Lauren Chen and not Lauren Southern. I was just saying that Lauren Southern was indeed implicated in this, that's all.
You're pointing out the truth as to how you see me, not how I personally feel which is totally different than objective truth which is what you're trying to convince me of. That your truth is objective when in reality it's subjective.
Lauren Chen and Lauren Southern are both Canadian citizens, not American lmao
That wasn't your original argument, your original argument said that it was Lauren Chen and not Lauren Southern. I was just saying that Lauren Southern was indeed implicated in this, that's all.
I'm just pointing out the truth
You're pointing out the truth as to how you see me, not how I personally feel which is totally different than objective truth which is what you're trying to convince me of. That your truth is objective when in reality it's subjective.
Objective truth is based on facts and evidence, while subjective truth is based on personal perspective, feelings, or opinions:
Objective truth
Objective truth is true for everyone, regardless of their feelings or opinions. It can be proven through scientific experiments and applies to everyone in every situation. For example, the laws of physics are objective truths because gravity applies to everyone in the same way.
Subjective truth
Subjective truth is based on a person's perspective, feelings, or opinions. It is dependent on a mind and cannot be confirmed independently of a mind. For example, if one person thinks the weather is pleasantly warm and another person thinks it is too hot, both views are subjective
Objective truth
Objective truth is true for everyone, regardless of their feelings or opinions. It can be proven through scientific experiments and applies to everyone in every situation. For example, the laws of physics are objective truths because gravity applies to everyone in the same way.
Subjective truth
Subjective truth is based on a person's perspective, feelings, or opinions. It is dependent on a mind and cannot be confirmed independently of a mind. For example, if one person thinks the weather is pleasantly warm and another person thinks it is too hot, both views are subjective
Rolexeo · 26-30, M
@SatanBurger Yeah, that was my mistake, you said they're American though and they're not.
No, I'm pointing out a pattern I see on the left that I'm pretty sure applies to you.
No, I'm pointing out a pattern I see on the left that I'm pretty sure applies to you.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Rolexeo I don't doubt you think your irrelevant off topic opinion is your own subjective truth. I believe you believe what my motivations were and I believe you believe how I feel better than me, I really do believe that you think that i.e. pretending to be a patriot.
So I'm not calling you a liar but you seem to want to argue that your opinion is objective and it's not. Just know the difference, that's all.
I will also gladly disown any left wing YouTubers who are caught trying to take money from an authoritarian country to sway an election. If you can find any, let me know so I know, thanks.
So I'm not calling you a liar but you seem to want to argue that your opinion is objective and it's not. Just know the difference, that's all.
I will also gladly disown any left wing YouTubers who are caught trying to take money from an authoritarian country to sway an election. If you can find any, let me know so I know, thanks.
Rolexeo · 26-30, M
@SatanBurger Calling my opinion irrelevant is your subjective truth.
I've yet to see you ever criticize leftists for being funded by foreign countries, or even criticize the left period. A trend I see with leftists. I'm gonna doubt you until I see evidence to the contrary.
Why must they be authoritarian? I don't see why it matters, these people barely talk about Russia. America meddles in everyone elses elections. Not seeing why you care.
I've yet to see you ever criticize leftists for being funded by foreign countries, or even criticize the left period. A trend I see with leftists. I'm gonna doubt you until I see evidence to the contrary.
Why must they be authoritarian? I don't see why it matters, these people barely talk about Russia. America meddles in everyone elses elections. Not seeing why you care.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Rolexeo I called your opinion irrelevant because instead of focusing on current events this whole conversation is you making it all about me whereas I'm reporting on the news.
Yeah okay you dislike the far left and you think I think this or that but anyways, about recent news with them YouTubers though? Got an actual thing to say regarding the actual subject?
Probably not.
I literally just said to name a few so I can know who they are in a previous comment above lol.
It's obvious I didn't know there were any news in the past of leftist YouTubers getting paid by countries to sway elections.
I didn't know any of that so chill.
Yup. I've made numerous posts about past wars that America has had no right to be in and other propaganda they did, especially in the 80s and early 90s.
I don't feel the need to mention every war in a single post and overly justify myself, I don't need to.
Like sorry I didn't write a thesis on everything America has done just to report the news and give my opinion on it. So sue me 😂
Yeah okay you dislike the far left and you think I think this or that but anyways, about recent news with them YouTubers though? Got an actual thing to say regarding the actual subject?
Probably not.
I've yet to see you ever criticize leftists for being funded by foreign countries, or even criticize the left period. A trend I see with leftists. I'm gonna doubt you until I see evidence to the contrary.
I literally just said to name a few so I can know who they are in a previous comment above lol.
It's obvious I didn't know there were any news in the past of leftist YouTubers getting paid by countries to sway elections.
I didn't know any of that so chill.
America meddles in everyone elses elections. Not seeing why you care.
Yup. I've made numerous posts about past wars that America has had no right to be in and other propaganda they did, especially in the 80s and early 90s.
I don't feel the need to mention every war in a single post and overly justify myself, I don't need to.
Like sorry I didn't write a thesis on everything America has done just to report the news and give my opinion on it. So sue me 😂
Rolexeo · 26-30, M
@SatanBurger "I called your opinion irrelevant because instead of focusing on current events this whole conversation is you making it all about me whereas I'm reporting on the news."
"The right wingers are always guilty over something go figure 🥴"
Just reporting on the news, no bias whatsoever lmao
Someone who only criticizes one side is not thinking objectively or simply reporting on the news
"The right wingers are always guilty over something go figure 🥴"
Just reporting on the news, no bias whatsoever lmao
Someone who only criticizes one side is not thinking objectively or simply reporting on the news
@Rolexeo
Exactly, so why is the US government even getting involved in their case (the others I can understand, because they're US citizens)?
And isn't the timing of it just SO convenient?
There's just nothing here. It's "much ado about nothing", as Shakespeare might put it.
Lauren Chen and Lauren Southern are both Canadian citizens, not American
Exactly, so why is the US government even getting involved in their case (the others I can understand, because they're US citizens)?
And isn't the timing of it just SO convenient?
There's just nothing here. It's "much ado about nothing", as Shakespeare might put it.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Rolexeo
Honestly, it's relevant to the current political climate and the fact we got an upcoming election. The facts are presented, right wing influencers were paid by Russia and failed to report it. That's a fact. No amount of silly gotcha debate style is going to change that.
Again, you are welcome to name me a few leftists who did that in elections and failed to report as working with a foreign agent. I likely didn't know, I'm not doing it on purpose to make you mad. The current news is Trump vs
Kamala, I'm sure you're well aware.
Someone who only criticizes one side is not thinking objectively or simply reporting on the news
Honestly, it's relevant to the current political climate and the fact we got an upcoming election. The facts are presented, right wing influencers were paid by Russia and failed to report it. That's a fact. No amount of silly gotcha debate style is going to change that.
Again, you are welcome to name me a few leftists who did that in elections and failed to report as working with a foreign agent. I likely didn't know, I'm not doing it on purpose to make you mad. The current news is Trump vs
Kamala, I'm sure you're well aware.
Rolexeo · 26-30, M
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Rolexeo Yes they're Canadian as you said, still doesn't change the rules or clearly them shilling for Russia wouldn't be an issue. We wouldn't have this news if there wasn't something.
Rolexeo · 26-30, M
@SatanBurger It does if you're concern is the U.S election. Also they're right wing and Putin endorsed Harris
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Rolexeo It really doesn't matter where they're from if they're being paid to endorse Trump and have major platforms as youtubers and they fail to disclose their ties. Trump is getting put up for election in America but the youtuber's influences are far and wide, hence the 100,000 dollar per video endorsing Trump, an American, not Canadian.
Yup. Believe I put that in my title "apparently some right winged youtubers" .....
Yup Putin indeed endorsed Harris, while shilling out 8 million, almost 10 million to 6 youtube influencers to endorse Trump, covertly. Logic tells you that endorsing Harris was a ploy clearly because you don't typically give 10 million to just anyone.
Also they're right wing and Putin endorsed Harris
Yup. Believe I put that in my title "apparently some right winged youtubers" .....
Yup Putin indeed endorsed Harris, while shilling out 8 million, almost 10 million to 6 youtube influencers to endorse Trump, covertly. Logic tells you that endorsing Harris was a ploy clearly because you don't typically give 10 million to just anyone.
Rolexeo · 26-30, M
@SatanBurger They've both been around since before 2016, they've always endorsed Trump. Trying to blame their endorsement of Trump on Russia doesn't work.
Putin specifically paid them?
Can you explain specifically what propaganda they pushed and why you care?
Putin specifically paid them?
Can you explain specifically what propaganda they pushed and why you care?
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Rolexeo
It does work when they're getting paid 8 million by a foreign entity to do it and the DOJ agrees so it doesn't matter what you think works or not. They're going to court either way. Plus you don't know how long the Russians been doing it from before.
I don't know why you have an issue with understanding why people have to disclose if they're working for a foreign country or not. Seems like that's a personal issue on your account.
Trying to blame their endorsement of Trump on Russia doesn't work.
It does work when they're getting paid 8 million by a foreign entity to do it and the DOJ agrees so it doesn't matter what you think works or not. They're going to court either way. Plus you don't know how long the Russians been doing it from before.
Can you explain specifically what propaganda they pushed and why you care?
I don't know why you have an issue with understanding why people have to disclose if they're working for a foreign country or not. Seems like that's a personal issue on your account.
Rolexeo · 26-30, M
@SatanBurger Yeah, no, you'd have the prove Russia was funding them the entire time.
Cause you don't know what you're talking about or actually care lol
Cause you don't know what you're talking about or actually care lol
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Rolexeo Well tell the DOJ that they have to prove that about Russia, not me. I'm not the one with the evidence, they are. I'm only giving my thoughts as I'm allowed to.
Rolexeo · 26-30, M
@SatanBurger I will tell them