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Who do you trust more : Donald Trump or the Intelligence Services ?

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RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
Why ?
Cause the Intelligence makes no sense ... way too contrived
[b]Where there is no harm ... there is no foul
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This was the largest shift of political power, since 1928.

A bunch of emails outing Hillary did not [b]cause or increase[/b] that debacle ... nobody was listening to that stuff.

The moment Hillary differentiated the urban centers from everybody else ... it was pretty much final.

She declared the people in 2,800 counties of the US, as "undesirable".

She said did not want their vote ... she received her wish!

She maxed out the urban vote in her 83 cities ... the released emails obviously had no impact there.

Unnecessarily calling 90% of America "Deplorable" is what caused all those counties to flip for Trump.

A handful of emails had no effect whatsoever.

No harm

No foul

No interest
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@questionWeaver: Contrived how , a conspiracy ?

P.S. This question has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton.
@pezzza:

It has everything to do with Hillary.

I trust the American people evaluated all the info they had ... that they personally voted ... and that EVERY single voter made an informed vote consistent with their individual values and desires.

No (NONE) Intelligence remotely suggests that the above is not true.

So ... regardless of what foreign entities had hoped to achieve ... it accomplished nothing.

"Nothing" and hypotheticals are not what I want to spend time addressing.

HILLARY lost the election because she chose to divide the US along urban/non-urban lines ... and made no effort to acquire the non-urban vote.

That is "the something" ... the something we should all learn from.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@questionWeaver: No it doesn't , no matter how hard you try.
@pezzza:

Huh? ... when you have a chance ... place it in a sentence.

I think you agreed with me ... but am unsure what moved you
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@questionWeaver: I think we might have crossed wires. I was just re-iterating my remark that this question has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton. Even though I might agree your analysis for her losing the election and I also have no idea (nor does anyone really) whether the hacking may have swung the election (although it certainly couldn't have helped her) , what is as clear as day is that Russia was involved and to deny that in spite of what your own intelligence services , and your own party , is telling you is frankly absurd.
Thank you Pezzza! ... appreciate the clarification

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I am not saying that intelligence has not found evidence of an effort to hack the DNC folks.

I do not think anybody is disputing that.

But, regardless of how much effort the hackers put into it. ... it was for nought.

They surfaced emails the writers should be ashamed of writing.

But, there was no damage ... just effort.

It is like the other team stealing the catchers signals ... but the pitcher still striking the hitter out ... a meaningless theft.
ABQ1952NM · 70-79, M
@pezzza: Trump and Putin are buddies, so I think that Russia could have had something to do with the election. Trump will do anything to be President. He's a billionaire because of all of the bankruptcies he's filed, which saved him tons of money. He's a crook for sure.