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Who do you trust more : Donald Trump or the Intelligence Services ?

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Cierzo · M
The Intelligence Services are those nice guys called CIA, NSA and the like, right? Trump by a landslide.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
I'm assuming you do know to what I am specifically referring ?
Cierzo · M
@pezzza: The alleged Russian hacking, I think.
I trust anyone in the world more than the American intelligence service, the same professional guys that for instance assured there were weapons of massive destruction in Iraq. Their intentions are never good, and the amount of destruction they have brought to the world is immense.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Cierzo: Well they weren't alone in believing about WMD , intelligence communities across the globe believed it too. (Because paid Iraqi informers were telling them so.)
But on this one point , are you really saying that you have more faith in what Donald Trump alone (for even his own party knows he is being ridiculous in his claims)tells you than your own security services in unanimity ?
Ynotisay · M
@Cierzo: Are you sure the intelligence agencies said there were WMD's? Really, REALLY sure?
You might not know that the CIA declassified their findings. You should check it out. But I doubt you will because then you'd have to change your opinion. That is, if truth matters to you of course.
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the other key political players saw something very different than what they were presented with. And when Trump says what he says? He's lying.
Cierzo · M
@pezzza: Trump is not even president yet He deserves the benefit of the doubt. Intelligence services have been there for years and their intentions have never been good. They have armed guerillas and backed coups often.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Cierzo: He deserves nothing of the sort when he is being deliberately obtuse for strictly personal reasons. He deserves to be called out for it.
Cierzo · M
@pezzza: Seeing how many of Clinton supporters advocate intelligence services, I am still more persuaded that she was a real danger for the world suppirted by a bunch of lunatic warmongers and that the world is really fortunate that Democrats lost the election.
ABQ1952NM · 70-79, M
@Cierzo: Trump does not deserve anything. He is a crook, filing several bankruptcies, he lies, he hasn't paid income taxes for 18 years because he thinks he is better then anyone else, he LOVES Putin, and when Russia screws us over, you would never think of blaming Trump, you would blame Obama instead.