@Handfull1 I'm not understanding what you are saying. He is a former President, a Commander in Chief doing a Arlington Memorial. I'd equally be open to Obama or Bush or (Bill) Clinton doing this. Jimmy Carter isn't doing too well so he is excused.
Do you think he should be forbidden because Orange Man Bad? Because you don't want to vote for him? It doesn't work that way. He held the position of Commander in Chief, and by many historical metrics was a exfellent one. He increased funding to the military, didn't start new wars, maintained the alliances we had, and opened up ths potential for new ones, and pressed deadbeat nations in NATO to pay their fair dues. We would have alot more dead soldiers in Arlington and gimp soldiers in wheelchairs if it wasn't for him.
@Handfull1 It's unconstitutional to have such laws in the first place. It's unenforceable in the legal sense, bith by civilian and military personnel. And such rules would equally ban Biden and Kamala from being photographed.
If I ran for office as a whatever, and got photographed standing saluting iver the grave of someone I knew or didn't know, and was brought before a judge, military or not, you know what my defence would be? First Amendment. And I'd be released with a apology, citing the law and regulation was unconstitutional and unenforceable. And if the idiots were dumb enough to flout the constitution again, I would cite the furst amendment again, and then sing that Brittney Spears song "Opps I did it again" while prancing infront of the court. And I'd get off again Scotfree. Why? There is no way in hell you can claim a public safety, national security, whatever exception to the First Amendment in this case. A unconstitutional law is a illegal law, and you violate the US Code whenever you try to enforce a unconstitutional law by trying to deprive someone of their constitutional rights.
A citizens rights, especially that of the president or a former president, doesn't go away just because you don't like that person. This applies equally to Presidents I don't like as well.
Only regulations I've seen on saluting is you do it to officers, and members of Congress, foreign allied officers. Enlisted you do parade rest. Dead people aren't on the payrole, so lose their O or E status, and thus their rank.
I just visited my godmothers grave yesterday for the first time and broke down crying in under three seconds and had to leave. Should I had saluted her, or gone to parade rest? Is there a rule I am unaware of on how to properly position yourself before the dead in order to honor them? Do you prostate? Stand on you head and spin while whistling The Battle Hymn of the Republic?
When I was on graveyard detail while active service, I had tk wear a dress uniform and salute the caskets as they arrived, and each branch of the military had different rules on the kind of salutes, but we had a guy standing there telling us in advance how many shots to give, where to stand, etc. Nobody else saluted but us, and we only did so because it was a lawful order for us to do so. We had no legit reason to refuse. It isn't required of anyone else to salute except guys on funeral detail.
Could you imagine the poor soldiers at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier if he had to salute every grave he walked pass just to get to the grave he has to patrol? He'd never make it, his arm would fall off before reaching it. Nothing but graves in the graveyard. No requirement to salute them all.
@Handfull1 I certainly did not bring up saluting. You did, here:
Saluting is about as exciting to a veteran as eating styrofoam. For the few who feel otherwise, I encourage you to go join the American Legion so you can do endless flag and funeral details till you die of senility. It isn't remotely interesting to most veterans. They tried recruiting me once I got out and I did a about face and walked away.
@Dignaga If I ran for office as a whatever, and got photographed standing saluting iver the grave of someone I knew or didn't know, and was brought before a judge, military or not, you know what my defence would be?
@Handfull1 I did not run for office. My political party is so puny (The Prohibition Party) I run the risk of being nominated as it's presidential candidate someday if I ran for literally any office, however small, and got elected.
So one thing you will never see me do is run for public office.
Everyone has the right amount of limbs and fingers, don't think it is AI generated. What is it you are seeing?
Okay, assuming such photos are real, it is still d*sgusting that trump would be there.
You know how most people think it is wrong and awkward that drag queens used to go to schools to read? Trump participating in a veteran memorial is just as "icky". He is no friend of our fallen warriors.
You are most definitely the one who brought up saluting, @Dignaga . You:
If I ran for office as a whatever, and got photographed standing saluting iver the grave of someone I knew or didn't know, and was brought before a judge, military or not, you know what my defence would be? First Amendment.
