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Whacky Conversation wheres the sanity!!??

Yup heard a good one today between my Husband and Sister in law.
She goes on and on about how shes afraid if Trump gets in office he will implement Project 2025.
All the pensions and benefits will GO AWAY FOR VETERANS!! The VA hospitals will be closed etc...
I don't know where she gets her information from but listening to this @$%# is a bit much..

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ArishMell · 70-79, M
Has she read the 2025 Presidential Transition Project (its full name) and the web-site of the Heritage Foundation that published it?

Perhaps that is where she obtained her information. Whether she interpreted it correctly is a different matter.

Whether Mr. Trump would follow it if he becomes President again, is yet another different matter. I have no idea if he has claimed he will.

If you need know what someone has really said, you need read that source, whether you agree or disagree with their ideas. Not rely on what others might want you to believe they said.

(I have read that HF material so I have some idea of its general nature, ideology and aims.)
aradia11 · 61-69, F
@ArishMell Ive read the 2025 and I yet to make sense of it. I didnt read exactly what my SIL was saying. She makes it sould like her Military pension/disability would be taken away completely.
I read where it would be harder for those seeking benefits it would be more difficult.
Honestly im notvsure what to make of it.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@aradia11 Just being a veteran doesn’t entitle one to all VA benefits. That’s always been the case. Some benefits have expiration dates, some are reserved for military related causes, and some are as funding lasts.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@aradia11 I think the "Project 2025" document is a set of principles, not a definite manifesto. It appears to propose as little State aid for anyone as possible, but not give the details of how this is implemented.

Really, you'd need ask your sister-in-law what she had read or heard to make her think as she does, to understand her fear.


The HF's own web-site shows it as an association of a large numbers of business interests and external single-interest groups who want the USA run according to HF's own political principles, and US society to match HF social principles.

The Project 2025 document seems really a summary of the HF demands, and the route to them, but reads like a naked desire to be the power behind the throne.

Whether the President, Senate and House of Representatives would allow the Heritage Foundation to control their governance of the nation, or would keep it at arm's length as just an electoral-campaigns sponsor, is for the politicians to decide.


I did find the Project's main author was an oil-industry director so naturally supports the HF's general denial of anthropogenic climate change, but he now has sizeable personal interests in the rare-earth metals industries on which the move to all-electric life rely...
aradia11 · 61-69, F
@ArishMell Thank you for you're imput. I still think some aspects areca bit far-fetched.
aradia11 · 61-69, F
@Heartlander Yes, understood one has to qualify for certain benefits. My husband was in Vietnam and has issues from that war, he gets a military ck, my SIL was in the Airforce for 24 years and gets a pension. She is worried about it being taken away if 2025 gets implemented.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@aradia11 I agree - though as a foreigner I don't want to risk taking sides in the USA's domestic politics.

Having some idea of what is happening is one thing but it's not for me to support or disagree with either Party.

What do matter though, are the nation's foreign policies.

I suppose a parallel here is that during the campaigns before our own recent General Election I did read all the candidates' material, not just the one I might support.... or at least support more than the rest!
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@aradia11 I don’t think that military pensions have anything to do with VA benefits. Military pensions are calculated as a % of base pay through a formula similar to how social security payments are calculated.

For VA benefits, I don’t think anyone would dare take away benefits for service related issues. Some benefits are means tested, simply to provide a special rescue net for those who served. I did 10 years USAF, half active, half ready reserves. So not nearly enough for a pension, but still likely some VA benefits.
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