Anyone for a Kamala Harris- Hillary Clinton Presidential Run?

@ElwoodBlues Those people don't even know their own ideological history. KKK and Nazis historically hated each other, KKK back when democrats dominated the south used to hunt dkwn Nazis, and were enthusiastic for Roosevelt and enlisted en masse for WW2. Nazis obviously did not want to go overseas to fight other Nazis.

The phenomena you are seeing is the direct result, since shortly after WW2, of the left trying (unsuccessfully) to distance itself from Nazis policies and ideology by labeling it a right wing movement, which is a terminology borrowed from French Socialism and Marxist-Leninism which wanted to blame Capitalism for the rise of the Nazis Empire and not as a spinoff of the European left.

The Neo-Nazis groups and the KKK don't attract the brightest people, and after three generations of being called the right by the left, they accepted the terminolgy of the left and call themselves right, but they usually just get into fights with conservatives who look at them like two headed aliens from mars. They show up to pick whatever support they can. If you look at thier literature, they are strongly pro-abortion, pro-eugenics, want liberal socialism as a ethnic volk, and kften support the free love movement. People forget the Fascist Movement began as a arts oriented hippy movment. The very first place that instituted fascism was The Free State of Fiume immediately at the end of WW1, and it was a hippy movement of free love.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_of_Fiume

Lead by Gabriele D’Annunzio, this silly fuck:



Yes, he was the first to institute Fascism, was a hippy, and free love advocate, made a constitution based around the Ubermensch and the principles of music. The modern Hippy Movement descends from it. He moved back to Italy and served under mussolini.

That's why the Nazis Elites were having orgies all the time and doing drugs. They were a liberal movement. That's why the Neo-Nazis in America have orgies and run meth labs, and have their own secret music and religious rituals. But most are superficially aware of it until they start reading into it. Many are indoctrinated in Prisons and join right into Communist Parties after getting out, it's a very simple ideological transition, pretty much everything is the same, heck they can even still hate on the Jews (Karl Marx hated Jews).

It's a leftist movement. The left just labels them as right because of european propaganda. And I don't think the KKK crowd is very much aware of their conservative democratic party roots at this point, they are a even smaller movement and they don't seem the book reading type. Nazis have a deeper literature to dig into from two continents going back to the 19th century, and their ideas are actively discussed and apllauded by the modern left, so when they do turn intellectual they have more to dig through.

As a conservative I hate both. It has nothing to do with conservatives. It's a phenomena of the left.

@Dignaga says WRONG!!


Actions speak louder than words, and NAZI actions were anti-socialist, destroying unions and privatizing industry. Need details?

On May 2, 1933, Adolf Hitler’s storm troopers occupied all trade union headquarters across Germany, and union leaders were arrested and put in prison or concentration camps. Many were beaten and tortured. All of the unions’ funds – in other words, the workers’ money – were confiscated. Former union officials were put on blacklists, preventing them from finding work.

The Great Depression had spurred increased state ownership in most Western capitalist countries. This also took place in Germany during the last years of the Weimar Republic.[41] However, after the Nazis took power, industries were privatized en masse. Several banks, shipyards, railway lines, shipping lines, welfare organizations, and more were privatized.[42] The Nazi government took the stance that enterprises should be in private hands wherever possible.[43] State ownership was to be avoided unless it was absolutely necessary for rearmament or the war effort, and even in those cases "the Reich often insisted on the inclusion in the contract of an option clause according to which the private firm operating the plant was entitled to purchase it."[43]

In short: Hitler hated unions and loved privately owned industry - the polar opposite of a socialist!!!

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I'm betting you'll be unable to document this. The south was strongly anti-interventionist until Pearl Harbor. There's a book that shows the KKK and the Nazis had a similar white power agenda. Also, look for connections between the KKK and the German-American Bund. There was a rally held at the Bund's NJ compound 'Camp Nordland' where a joint meeting between members of the Bund and the KKK - bedecked in their "regalia" - occurred on August 18, 1940. The organizers claimed 3,500 attendees; others put the total closer to 1000. Regardless, the Bund (American Nazis) and the KKK were friendly, NOT opposed.

In short, my data says the KKK was by no means anti-Nazi, and you've provided no data to support your claim.

Most of the rest of your screed suffers from the logical fallacy of false equivalence; for example assuming that every group of people who get naked together share the same ideology. Pure sillyness!!

And, again, Hitler hated unions and actually privatized state owned industry - the polar opposite of a socialist!!!

@ElwoodBlues No, I'm right. Been doing philosophy and history for quite some time.

@Dignaga Actions speak louder than words, and NAZI actions were anti-socialist, destroying unions and privatizing industry - the POLAR OPPOSITE of socialism!!