It just keeps getting worse . . . now they want a Bible in every classroom

@hippyjoe1955 specifically I would prefer that they learn math science and US and world history and keep your religious views at home and in your churches

@James25 So your religion is scientism. Care to elaborate? We all have a religion. Yours is one of the worst for humanity. Nice try though. You keep worshipping your idols. I will continue to serve YAHWEH.

@hippyjoe1955 I think you are confusing your way of thinking as if it was mine as well. I do not see science and math as religion. You believe in religion I don't. Again you are trying to push your believe system on to other people. I don't share your views.

@hippyjoe1955 again you are projecting your way of seeing things on to me as well. Like I said I do not share your views or your way of understanding things.

@James25 I am not projecting I am simply pointing out that science is based purely on human observation and every minute of every day of every week something changes. What we once held dear (science was flat earthers for a long time) we now reject. Darwin's theory of evolution has more holes in it than ratty cheese cloth but science still clings to it because it is its Genesis account. The point of fact is that if Darwin is true then Darwin is worthless because it destroys any credibility of science.

@hippyjoe1955 yes a part of Science is based on observation. And as things change science adapt to those changes as well.

What holes does Darwin's theory have?

"Genesis account" projecting your understanding again.

How does Darwin destroy any credibility of science?

@James25 Genesis account is shorthand for how we got here. Darwin has too many holes to even start. Suffice it to say that DNA pretty much destroys Darwin. No way it could come into being and contain useful information that can be acted upon even in the most simple cells. Darwin only works if a cell is just a blob of protoplasm.

@hippyjoe1955 so this whole thing is about how Genesis is a more accurate understanding of creation than science. Not taking into account the questionable description of creation in Genesis it is just as likely and of equal possibility for a process of science to be the cause of the universe. And the development of different species. Just as much as God could have created the universe a process of science could created the universe as well. Also just because you do not understand the natural process of evolution through natural selection does not mean it did not occur. If God created DNA then it is just as likely that such a process of DNA can occur through science. The very same properties that you attribute to your God can be just as equally attributed to science.

@James25 This is not comparing anything to anything. It is simply pointing out that Darwin doesn't fit the evidence. Information such as found in DNA does not spontaneously evolve. The special coding we see in the DNA also can not be explained by 'natural' means. In both cases it only comes from intelligent design.

@hippyjoe1955 again just because you do not understand and cannot explain by what natural means DNA can evolve does not mean that the natural process of evolution cannot occur and within itself be of an intelligent design.

@James25 Actually it is you that can't explain anything. You simply cling to a worn out dogma that simply can not be true. Information only comes from intelligence. It does not come from random atoms bumping into each other.

@hippyjoe1955 you are right I cannot explain it I am not an expert in genealogy. I have not studied genetics. I'm only presenting my theory in opposition to biblical Genesis. Who is to say that there is not an intelligence within the evolutionary process itself. I apologize in saying this I do not mean to sound insulting but you don't seem to have an open mind. Locked into the same belief system for thousands of years without any change. That is the problem with believing in the Bible. It keeps you from thinking for yourself and expanding your awareness and knowledge. You are simply to believe what you are told without questioning its validity.

@James25 I am simply using your theory to show you how foolish your theory actually is. Not to mention if your theory is simply the result of random atoms bumping into each other then your theory can not be trusted. Would you trust a computer that somehow came from a series of accidents? I know I wouldn't.

@hippyjoe1955 maybe atoms aren't randomly bumping into each other. Maybe there is some process of intelligent design within the atoms themselves. Within nature itself. Like I said just as the process can occur within a god it is just as likely that such a process can naturally occur through evolution.

@James25 Such as????? Too funny. Deny the obvious by resorting to the ridiculous. There is no special process. It would be evident and we would be seeing new life forms all the time.

@hippyjoe1955 change is a very slow process

@James25 Says who? the guy who didn't know about DNA? Too Funny. Sorry but you and your pet theory lost the debate. The facts are simply not on your side.

@hippyjoe1955 I know about DNA I'm just not an expert. They're not facts they are only your beliefs.

@James25 No they are facts as established by people expert in the field. The functioning of a cell is a miracle in itself. Incredible amount of detailed design involved. Just one tiny glimpse. A cell has need of something in one area that is in another area. The cell builds a road and send as many robots as it needs to move the needed substance from its present location to the place it is needed. Upon completion of the task the cell destroys the highway and its robots go to sleep to wait for the next time they are needed. This isn't science fiction. This is a description of what is going on in your and my cells everyday.

@hippyjoe1955 nice to hear you believe in science. Yes science can be based in fact but religion can only be based in belief

@James25 Science is not my idol. It is a tool I use. In fact I used it to find YAHWEH. Maybe you should try. If you are as 'scientific' as you claim you can always experiment and find out.

@hippyjoe1955 maybe the God that you believe in is science and the Bible is simply a more primitive understanding of science

@hippyjoe1955

How about all Canadian classrooms being required to post a photo of the head of state and one of the P.M.? 😉