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ArtieKat · M
No - the alternative was to deliberately spoil my ballot paper and that seems childish. The current MP is not a nice woman and I certainly don't want to be represented by any of the other candidates.
MrAverage1965 · 61-69, M
@helenS Is it not better to vote labour, fight for proportional representation when they win and then vote Lib Dem next time.
I may constituency a vote for Lib Dem this time could let the Conservatives win.
I may constituency a vote for Lib Dem this time could let the Conservatives win.
helenS · 36-40, F
@MrAverage1965 that's one the many problems of the FPTP principle: it forces people to vote for a party they don't really support...
ArtieKat · M
@MrAverage1965 What makes you think that Labour (under Keir Starmer), with a large majority under first-past-the-post are any more likely to reform the system that they could have done between 1997 and 2010, or the Tories have failed to do.
MrAverage1965 · 61-69, M
@helenS apparently 25% of those voting here vote tactically
helenS · 36-40, F
@MrAverage1965 Another FPTP problem is that a party with a strong local or regional support base will be able to get people into the parliament, whereas a party with the same number of voters, but scattered all over the country, will come away empty-handed. It's not fair.
TheSirfurryanimalWales · 61-69, M
@helenS I want PR.
No matter who is in power the majority of the country didn’t vote for them but we rejected that.
I find it ridiculous any party can get a huge victory with only around 35% of the vote.
And yes I am happy with the result but I spent years knowing I’d get a Tory MP
( unless it was Tory wipeout time) and as a result of boundary changes I now know I will always get a Labour MP.No way will my new constituency ever vote in a Tory.
But it would make the voting system a little more complicated.
We have an element of PR in the Welsh government elections.
And I’m not sure I understand it.
No matter who is in power the majority of the country didn’t vote for them but we rejected that.
I find it ridiculous any party can get a huge victory with only around 35% of the vote.
And yes I am happy with the result but I spent years knowing I’d get a Tory MP
( unless it was Tory wipeout time) and as a result of boundary changes I now know I will always get a Labour MP.No way will my new constituency ever vote in a Tory.
But it would make the voting system a little more complicated.
We have an element of PR in the Welsh government elections.
And I’m not sure I understand it.
helenS · 36-40, F
@TheSirfurryanimalWales It's really an odd quirk of the British voting system. The percentage of votes a party gets doesn’t translate to seats. 😐
Let there be a constituency with 5 candidates, one of which gets 21% of the votes, and the others get 19.75% each ==> the 21% guy will become a member of parliament. If that were true for all constituencies, 79% of the population would not be represented in the parliament, and the 21% party would get 100% of the seats.
I'm pleasantly surprised by the successes of the Lib Dems by the way! 🥳
Let there be a constituency with 5 candidates, one of which gets 21% of the votes, and the others get 19.75% each ==> the 21% guy will become a member of parliament. If that were true for all constituencies, 79% of the population would not be represented in the parliament, and the 21% party would get 100% of the seats.
I'm pleasantly surprised by the successes of the Lib Dems by the way! 🥳