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pdockal · 56-60, M
We're in terrible trouble
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@pdockal Joe has to go
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@pdockal Yes. You are. And a lot of people are going to suffer because this has got so far and no one stopped it..😷
pdockal · 56-60, M
@whowasthatmaskedman
We the people have to stop fighting amongst ourselves and stand up and get noticed as a group before any positive change will Happen
We the people have to stop fighting amongst ourselves and stand up and get noticed as a group before any positive change will Happen
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@pdockal I wish you luck and sincerely hope that will be enough at this point. But I suspect the other side has already done just that. The stage is set for this to be the last anything like democratic election..😷
pdockal · 56-60, M
@whowasthatmaskedman
Without voter ID it will always be in the back of normal people mind who cheated
Without voter ID it will always be in the back of normal people mind who cheated
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@pdockal I dont think you can look at any one thing to fix. The whole rotten system is just that.. Rotten.. And now the result wont be trusted . Its over if they want it to be,,.😷
pdockal · 56-60, M
@whowasthatmaskedman
Require voter ID
Require in person voting on one day
What's so difficult about that
Require voter ID
Require in person voting on one day
What's so difficult about that
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@pdockal There are always people who cant make the polls that day.Hospital patients and even the medical staff working on them. Voter ID is fine. But proof you reside in the electorate is what we use.😷
pdockal · 56-60, M
@whowasthatmaskedman
Nobody i know (yes i know nurses) ever had a problem voting because of work
They could have s polling place in the hospital couldn't they ?
Nobody i know (yes i know nurses) ever had a problem voting because of work
They could have s polling place in the hospital couldn't they ?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@pdockal Yes, they could. But isnt it simpler at simply allow post in voting and even pre polling at a few locations for maybe 2 weeks ahead, still with that same ID requiremtn for votes to be checked against existing records?? What that does require is a dedicated electoral roll, based on residential addresses, which cuts fraud to a minimum at the start..😷
pdockal · 56-60, M
@whowasthatmaskedman
not @ all
no reason to do that
tooooo many ways to mainpulate the vote
make election day a national holiday and you only get paid if you vote
thos that dont work .... oh well ... they should be able to vote since they dont work
not @ all
no reason to do that
tooooo many ways to mainpulate the vote
make election day a national holiday and you only get paid if you vote
thos that dont work .... oh well ... they should be able to vote since they dont work
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@pdockal OK. Then lets say a team of firefighters are off fighting fires as volunteers in Canada that day. They shouldnt be able to vote? And military on assignment overseas?? What I do believe is that voting is not a right. Its an obligation. And therefore everyone has to be afforded the means to cast a vote. The real problem isnt voter fraud. Its voter apathy. People need to be reminded they must show up to vote and that each vote physically exists to be verified later if a query arises.. That will more than offset whatever little voter fraud can happen..😷
pdockal · 56-60, M
@whowasthatmaskedman
your just trying to make this difficult & KEEP the s=ystem in place
why cant the military vote on their bases ?????????
nobody told them to volunteer in canada nyway
your just trying to make this difficult & KEEP the s=ystem in place
why cant the military vote on their bases ?????????
nobody told them to volunteer in canada nyway
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@pdockal I disagree. The current fragmented system actually makes this difficult. A single independent authority makes it simple and inclusive..Military bases are a fraught example. Who gets to say if a vote cast in Ramstein base, in germany before its Tuesday in America counts??The current system disadvantages those with less resources and opportunity. The poor, the less mobile and generally those with less. Arguably the people with the greatest need to have their voices heard..😷
pdockal · 56-60, M
@whowasthatmaskedman
OMG let it go already
you can spin it all you want
and find every exception there ever could be
what if this
what if that
OMFG
voter ID
vote on one day
no mail in except in extreme situations
give every paid day off if & only if they can prove they voted
simple
your trying to make it complicated
your trying to have any argument/fight
be gone
OMG let it go already
you can spin it all you want
and find every exception there ever could be
what if this
what if that
OMFG
voter ID
vote on one day
no mail in except in extreme situations
give every paid day off if & only if they can prove they voted
simple
your trying to make it complicated
your trying to have any argument/fight
be gone
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@pdockal I love the idea that America has so many Heath Robinson systems that creak along and get bells whistes and patches put on so everyone can take advantage or make a profit from then. Be it voting, Health insurance or Higher education payments.. Then you tell me I am trying to make it complicated. Just do it right the first time.. Its cheaper and it works..😷
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@pdockal i work elections and no body, i mean no body votes who doesn't have that privilege
pdockal · 56-60, M
@SW-User
sure if you think so
whos filling in the mail in ballots of seniors in nursing homes?
what about illegals
sure if you think so
whos filling in the mail in ballots of seniors in nursing homes?
what about illegals

SW-User
@pdockal do you know this for a fact? Report it!
pdockal · 56-60, M
@SW-User
reporting it doesnt change anything
unless voter ID is required
unless one day in person voting
no mail in unless under extreme circumstances one can never be sure
& since both parties "cheat/manipulate" well never have reform & anybody can question the elections
reporting it doesnt change anything
unless voter ID is required
unless one day in person voting
no mail in unless under extreme circumstances one can never be sure
& since both parties "cheat/manipulate" well never have reform & anybody can question the elections