Julian Assange plea deal: Government vs the people.

@sree251 I can understand discretion is important when it comes to national security, but you are correct. The gov't is supposed to work for us.

@BizSuitStacy
National security is not in the interest of the people. Government's role is to make us safe by making the world a safe place, not by turning it into a hell hole. A third of our taxes go to national defense all because our government is inapt at getting along with other nations.

@whowasthatmaskedman
As you have said, America is part of a larger planet. Also, Assange's distaste for the US mainland ,by making his plea in the Pacific, is now shared by a rapidly growing part of the human race.


Those prosecutors are dead wrong. Manning's video files showing the merciless gunning down of non-combatants by US helicopter gunners are damning. It put in perspective the wanton killing of Osama bin Laden, Gaddafi, Solemeini, and others, ordered by US Presidents. We. as a nation, have no conscience and feel empowered to take out anyone in the world.

@sree251 In the second quote, I meant that no harm to US interests was done. Its been a long standing policy that America does not recognise the authority of the International community when it comes to war crimes committed by its people on others..😷

@whowasthatmaskedman
It depends on what we mean by "US interests". The interests of the US ruling elites controlling the government are not the same as the interests of we, the American people. Americans who travel abroad to other countries for business or pleasure, and come into contact with their citizens regard them as fellow human beings. We have no enemies. The US ruling elites, however, regard aliens with suspicion and see all other nations, including so-called allies and partners, as potential threats to and enemies of the homeland. They conduct US foreign policy not through diplomacy but dictate it through the barrel of the gun. Wikileaks pulled the covers off and revealed US hypocrisy and shredded the American facade as the defender of human rights and freedom. The US has now lost its authority to imposed its rules-based order on any country in the world. We are done as a nation.


The international community has been eating out of the hand of the US government, the biggest provider of funds to feed the corrupt regimes installed by the CIA to run the various member countries of the UN. They all toe the line of US foreign policy and form military coalitions as US allies to take down nations that would not yield to American hegemony backed by the EU.

Russia and China have shown defiance. Can they face down the US and its allies?

@HoraceGreenley
It could be a clown show because the Netherlands is part of NATO. And NATO is a dependent of the US. Is there a court of law in the US that is not a clown show? What does that tell you? Watch your step, Horace. Get out of line and it is not going to be good for you under the law.

@HoraceGreenley
Countries do not commit crimes, governments do.

@sree251
Fine

@SumKindaMunster Yes, I don't blame Assange from making the deal to get out of the US and UK clutches. Australians just stood around and watch us and the Brits trying to do him in. Only Ecuador stood up for him.

@BlueGreen
Do you mean that our thoughts are in a set pattern? This is true in a sense. We think in a language. I think in English. It is linguistic code.

@sree251 If we didn't kept distracting ourselves to some sort of paralysis, we probably would have taken more actions...

@BlueGreen
What do you mean by "distracting"?

@SumKindaMunster I am sad for him. He suffered greatly all because he has your sense of justice and mine. I don't have his bravado or guts.

@Picklebobble2
Why would you? I did not give Snowden a second thought either when I watched CNN covering his dramatic escape to Hong Kong. I was in the Singapore airport at the time waiting for my flight to Hong Kong. I even formed the first impression of Snowden as a rogue contractor who had no business passing judgment on his client, the US Department of Homeland Security.

Most Americans today could care less, and even regard Snowden as a traitor. What we perceive depends on what we are as the observer in the world we live in. Most of us live like cattle farmed by our respective governments. People like Snowden and Assange are not manageable and behave like bulls whose balls have not been torn off. You, like most of us, are quite content being a steer.

@sree251 The same could be said of any point of view if you extract what you want from the information given don't you think ?

Manipulation by design is a government stock in trade

@Picklebobble2
What do you mean by "extract what you want from the information given"? If we cattle are given hay, we eat it. If we are given corn, we eat it. If we are given soy, we eat it. People like us are managed in societies like cattle reared in feedlots.


Manipulation is what farmers call herding. We have 350 million human steers in America. China has 1.4 billion. Government's role is to herd us.The police are cattle dogs.