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Donald Trump vs United States

It is not a question of the President being above the law but the right of the Attorney General, the head of the US Department of Justice to fire his boss, the Head of the Executive Branch.
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ElwoodBluesM
@sree251 says [quote]We have lost our moral compass as a Christian nation - thanks to the secular push for a separation of church from state.[/quote] [big]ROTFL馃槀馃ぃ馃槀馃ぃ[/big]

(1) Separation of church and state has been there since the beginning! Just ask Thomas Jefferson!!

(2) We've NEVER been a "Christian nation." The Constitution's First Amendment makes all religions EQUAL!!

(3) Speaking of lost moral compasses, our current refugee crisis is a near perfect moral litmus test.
sree25141-45, M
@ElwoodBlues Elmwood, you are disseminating disinformation to the American public. This effort to degrade America's Christian culture has been going on incessantly. Why would you do this?
ElwoodBluesM
@sree251 You are DEAD WRONG. The Founders saw, in the early colonies, the problems of coupling religion with government. And so the founders explicitly wrote, in the First Amendment, that there would be no official religion, and that any religion (or NO religion) was perfectly acceptable for the people.

And you completely ducked my point about how, speaking of lost moral compasses, our current refugee crisis is a near perfect moral litmus test. A test the party of "Christian culture" is failing miserably. Do you care to address the point raised by Stephen Colbert? Or will you duck again??
sree25141-45, M
@ElwoodBlues What do you know about the Founders? You have been ingesting disinformation. It is not our America you are talking about. "Our" doesn't include you. You are no longer part of our white Christian culture comprising those minorities that share our traditional family values.
LeopoldBloomM
@sree251 Please provide the clauses in the Constitution establishing the US as a Christian country. Also, which denomination? It鈥檚 not like they all agree.
ElwoodBluesM
@sree251 About the Founders? I know what's been recorded and published in the Federalist papers and in the Founders' letters. What do YOU know??

[quote]You are no longer part of our white Christian culture[/quote]
Oh wow, the racism & bigotry surfaces, [b]LOL!!![/b]

Do you even understand what the Constitution is? It's mostly a set of restrictions on the Federal Government, saying the Government can only do these itemized things and no other things. It's not my fault if you built a bunch of fantasies outside the Constitution.

P.S. You are STILL ducking my point about how, speaking of lost moral compasses, our current refugee crisis is a near perfect moral litmus test. A test the party of "Christian culture" is failing miserably. Do you care to address the point raised by Stephen Colbert? Or will you duck again??
sree25141-45, M
@LeopoldBloom [quote] Please provide the clauses in the Constitution establishing the US as a Christian country. Also, which denomination? It鈥檚 not like they all agree. [/quote]

Are there any verse in the Bible that provides proof for verifying a true Christian?

A Christian country is defined by its culture of morality, values, and spirituality. Even a Buddhist, Muslim, and Hindu, subscribes to those moral values and can fit right in the American family. Devils keep out.
ElwoodBluesM
@sree251 says [quote]A Christian country is defined by ... [/quote]
The US is defined by its Constitution and laws. Full stop. The laws say there is no preferred religion in the US. There is no mention of Christianity in the US code. [b]Deal with it.[/b]

P.S. You are STILL ducking my point about how, speaking of lost moral compasses, our current refugee crisis is a near perfect moral litmus test. A test the party of "Christian culture" is failing miserably. Do you care to address the point raised by Stephen Colbert? Or will you duck again??
sree25141-45, M
@ElwoodBlues [quote] About the Founders? I know what's been recorded and published in the Federalist papers and in the Founders' letters. What do YOU know?? [/quote]

We can both read the same piece of Bach composition and play different interpretation of his music. The US Government committing and supporting the commissioning of genocide is a prime example of how far we have strayed as a nation founded on Christian morality. You support US foreign policy. I don't.

[quote] Oh wow, the racism & bigotry surfaces, LOL!!! [/quote]

Calling you out as a supporter of genocidal US foreign policy is being a racist and a bigot? You are definitely not an American, a person who values freedom and free speech.

[quote] Do you even understand what the Constitution is? It's mostly a set of restrictions on the Federal Government, saying the Government can only do these itemized things and no other things. It's not my fault if you built a bunch of fantasies outside the Constitution. [/quote]

The US Constitution enshrines Christian values. I cannot discuss it with you who don't share those values. To you, it is just a bunch of papers with rules the meaning of which are dependent on the crook who says what they are.

[quote] P.S. You are STILL ducking my point about how, speaking of lost moral compasses, our current refugee crisis is a near perfect moral litmus test. A test the party of "Christian culture" is failing miserably. Do you care to address the point raised by Stephen Colbert? Or will you duck again?? [/quote]

I think the Colbert statement is pretty fair. Are white Christian American selfishness a reflection of Jesus' own nature? Or are we refusing to live the way Jesus taught?

I see a divergence between white Christian American moral commitment, and US Government policy. Our current refugee crisis is a creation of the immoral US Government led by a ruling elite that is not of the people working for the people.
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