Is this antisemitic?

@Bumbles Well I agree it's not. But some news organizations have been called out for "antisemitic coverage" (BBC for instance) for doing that.

@trollslayer I would need to see the report itself to make that determination.

@Bumbles I'm saying that on a personal experience - hearing (mostly older) people in my wife's family or community claim they can no longer support NPR, listen to BBC, Reuters, etc because they are "antisemitic" (yes, using that term). The main "evidence" to them seems to be their lack of labeling Hamas as "terrorists" in their reporting, instead reporting them as "extremists" or a "militant group".

My of this I feel stems from deep emotion clouding objective reasoning, and I have seen a slight shift recently, as more Israeli news is becoming more critical of Israeli government.

@trollslayer Can’t speak to what they heard or the basis of their opinion. In this conflict antisemitism seems both over and under reported.

Leftist antisemitism is quite real, especially on college campuses, and complaining about facts as antisemitism seems overreach as well.

Some facts without context can certainly be propaganda

@Bumbles [quote]Leftist antisemitism is quite real, especially on college campuses, and complaining about facts as antisemitism seems overreach as well.[/quote]

I read an interesting take on this a few months ago. Many of the "free Palestine" groups/protests existed long before the current conflict. The basis is that these groups argue that Palestinians are being and have been oppressed by Israel for years, and there is a lack of pressure from western governments toward Israel regarding this situation. Israel is a focus vs other similar situations because Israel is allied with western countries who supply them military aid. To them, the current conflict only highlights the situation that has existed for decades. The criticism seems to be rooted in Israel's policies and US support for a country that has such policies. I don't universally view such activity as "antisemitic", and I wouldn't universally declare a person antisemitic who does not overtly denounce Hamas, because the same is not being required of Israel supporters to denounce settler violence as terrorism.

Where it crosses the line to antisemitism is when these protesters declare Israel has no right to exist as a country, that Jewish people have no right to live there, or that the criticism of Israel applies to Jewish people as a whole. Nonetheless, ignorance to how certain terms or phrases are used by true antisemites is no excuse. In other words, someone could claim that "from the river to the sea" does not necessarily mean the other side should be eradicated, but they can't claim ignorance here - they know darn well that that phrase has been used with genocidal intent by others, so their use of that phrase is a conscious decision to (hurtfully) inflame the situation. It's like the folks who insisted on using Obama's middle name. They would say, "well that is his middle name, so I am not being racist", yet they knew their intent when they used that name.

@trollslayer I think that’s fair. For the left once you are labeled “oppressor” it’s all fair game. They dismiss the Oct 7 attack” with a “yeah but…” and then any response is genocide.

@Bumbles Oh,im sorry,then i will say it.It makes you a Nazi if you disagree with Israels right to destroy its enemies,for its own self preservation.

@wonkywinky Your sentence structure is a bit unusual, not sure I follow.