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Americans have no power over the US Government.

But the government has power over us. How does democracy work?
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SlaveEt · 36-40, F
The United States is not a democracy. We are a representative republic. And if one knows how our system works the people have more power, especially in well organized numbers, than under any other form of government.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@SlaveEt that “organized numbers” part explains why they try and divide us.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@SlaveEt [quote] And if one knows how our system works the people have more power, especially in well organized numbers, than under any other form of government. [/quote]

Can you explain that in simple terms? In the beginning there were 56 members who signed the Declaration of Independence. If that number stayed the same, how do they work together as a representative republic?
SlaveEt · 36-40, F
@AthrillatheHunt
Indeed. Identity politics is the number one go to currently. Humans naturally dived ourselves into groups and have an "us" vs. "them" mentality. It annoys me when we play right into their manipulations. We all are the ones who lose😣
SlaveEt · 36-40, F
@sree251
The declaration was simply putting the King on notice. The US Constitution and Bill of Rights, and their amendments, are the documents that actually govern the country. If you haven not read them yet I recommend you do. I believe many of your questions will be answered in there.😊
sree251 · 41-45, M
@SlaveEt [quote] Humans naturally dived ourselves into groups and have an "us" vs. "them" mentality. [/quote]

How do you avoid getting manipulated? Don't you identify yourself with people sharing your political belief or perception of economic welfare of Americans?
SlaveEt · 36-40, F
@sree251
Of course, I am human after all. However, I personally try to avoid being manipulated by seeking as unbiased knowledge as possible to see all sides of an issue and then deciding for myself. The mass or mainstream media is known to be unreliable so other sources are the better option.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@SlaveEt [quote] If you haven not read them yet I recommend you do. I believe many of your questions will be answered in there.😊[/quote]

They are quite straightforward documents. We are moving away from the focus of the OP: [b]Americans have no power over the US Government.[/b]

We may not be a direct democracy which, in my opinion, does not give power to the people in practice. A representative republic is worse in that regard. It totally negates the power of the American citizen and substitutes them with 535 representatives up for hire by interest groups.
redredred · M
@sree251 no, not at all. Our republic protects the individual from the mob (democracy). In our republic, even if 99% of the population voted to deprive you of your rights, you’d still be protected. Ina pure democracy if 50.0001% of the people voted to hang you, you’d be dead.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@redredred [quote] Our republic protects the individual from the mob (democracy). [/quote]

It is a double edged sword. If 99% of the population cannot change the system that imprisons them, then they are trapped and have locked themselves in.

Am I wrong?
redredred · M
Yes you are wrong. All nations must have a basis in law. Rather than a hereditary king or a mob-boss like tyrant, this nation has a firm constitution that does not easily change. It is a strong spine than forms the legal basis for our republic. It isn’t supposed to be easily changed and definitely not on some whim.

You’re not Imprisoned, you’re protected. @sree251
sree251 · 41-45, M
@redredred [quote] You’re not Imprisoned, you’re protected. [/quote]

Please explain how the system protects me against my wishes but does not imprison me?
redredred · M
@sree251 Easily. You are free to do most anything that does not violate the rights of others. The constitution protects your rights from infringement by others and even the government. What is it you want to do that you feel you cannot?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@redredred [quote] You are free to do most anything that does not violate the rights of others. [/quote]

What about the rights of others violating mine? It's all a matter of opinion on what constitutes a violation, isn't it? The SCOTUS has the final say. Right?

[quote] What is it you want to do that you feel you cannot? [/quote]

I want to stop the US President from killing people.
redredred · M
@sree251 A violation of your rights is not a matter of opinion. People legitimately exercising their rights are not violating your rights. You have no right to stop other from enjoying their rights even if you don’t like what they’re doing.

As far as stopping the president. how would you do that under any government? As much as I detest the current president he is the legal head of the military and controls foreign relations.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@redredred [quote] As far as stopping the president. how would you do that under any government? As much as I detest the current president he is the legal head of the military and controls foreign relations. [/quote]

You are accepting the situation that you have no option but to live within the framework of established government. This is the situation of citizens in every government in the world.