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After Publicly Attacking Biden Administration for Issuing Moscow Terrorist Warning, Putin Now Has to Explain to Russians Why Precautions Weren't Taken

Radical Islamic Fundalmentalists remain an international terror threat. Whether it be ISIS, the Taliban or Iran-backed militia groups. Those three, not to mention other Islamic terrorist groups such as Al Qaeda, do not share a common leadership. They each have their own aspirations for power and wide-reaching attacks and murders of innocent people.

Russia could have joined the U.S. in combating state-sponsored terrorism but instead eyed land in Ukraine. It is now at the proverbial fork in the road. It can continue its reckless war in Ukraine or use the opportunity of this tragedy in Moscow to withdrawl, make peace and focus on international security and international cooperation.

But Vladimir Putin is too arrogant and prideful to admit defeat or ask for help from the United States, even though our intelligence apparatus is the best in the world. Yet he'll take help in the form of arms from Iran and North Korea to help his war against Ukraine.
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SW-User
How could Russia have joined the US in combating state sponsored terrorism?

Is this language for "do what the US wants"?
RedBaron · M
@SW-User It happened in WWII against Nazi Germany.
beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
@SW-User

You don't think it's in Russia's best interest to defeat Islamic terrorism?
SW-User
@beckyromero You didn't answer my question. How could Russia have joined the US in combating state sponsored terrorism?
SW-User
@RedBaron Stalin helped Hitler at the start of WWII. This changed when Hitler invaded Russia. When he invaded Russia, he became an enemy, and the Soviets sought to defeat their enemy.

Who is invading them today? I have questions about the attack in Russia.

Do you think the Nazis are comparable to Islamic terrorists?
RedBaron · M
@SW-User Yes, absolutely.
beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
@SW-User
How could Russia have joined the US in combating state sponsored terrorism?

Not buying weapons from Iran would be a start.
SW-User
@beckyromero Yes, it would be.

What could the US do to help matters?
beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
@SW-User
What could the US do to help matters?

Since Russia in the nation not cooperating in this regards, your question should be put to its leaders. Meaning how Russia could cooperate with the U.S.

What I would NOT do from the U.S. perspective is give in to Russia on ANYTHING in regards to Ukraine.
SW-User
@beckyromero The US doesn't want a Russia that is not prepared to bend to its will or "cooperate" the way the US wants.

Do you think a peace deal should be agreed to? What is the point of all this war?
beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
@SW-User
What is the point of all this war?

Land and Putin's desire to recreate the borders of the Soviet Union.

Do you think a peace deal should be agreed to?

When Russia withdrawls from Ukraine, including out of Crimea (which is part of Ukraine), then talks for a lasting peace can commence.

It was Putin who said:

"The problem you Americans have in dealing with us is that you think you understand us, but you don't. You look at the Chinese and you think: 'They're not like us.' You look at us Russians, and you think, 'They’re like us.' But you're wrong. We are not like you."
SW-User
@beckyromero Putin has no desire to recreate the borders of the Soviet Union. For years, Russia has been warning NATO not to encroach on its borders, but that is what they have done. You may see NATO as benevolent; this is not the view of Russia.

"When Russia withdrawls from Ukraine, including out of Crimea (which is part of Ukraine), then talks for a lasting peace can commence."

Why does Russia need to do that? In every peace talk, concessions must be made on both sides. Russia is not Nazi Germany, and you are going to be waiting a very long time if you think they will give you everything you want while they get nothing, and are expected to submit to the US for however many years to come.

Why is this comment from Putin controversial? Would you say that Americans are the same as the Greeks? If they are not the same, they are different. I'd like to know why you think Russia should be the same.
beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
@SW-User
In every peace talk, concessions must be made on both sides

Nonsense!

Did the Soviet Union engage in "peace talks" with Nazi Germany in 1944 or 1945?

Putin has no desire to recreate the borders of the Soviet Union.

He called the disintegration of the Soviet Union the greatest political tragedy of the 20th Century.

"Above all, we should acknowledge that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a major geopolitical disaster of the century. As for the Russian nation, it became a genuine drama. Tens of millions of our co-citizens and compatriots found themselves outside Russian territory. Moreover, the epidemic of disintegration infected Russia itself."
- Vladimir Putin, April 2005
https://web.archive.org/web/20240311160325/http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/22931

[media=https://youtu.be/nTvswwU5Eco]
at the 1:50 mark

And, yes, he has said he would re-create the borders of the former Soviet Union if he could! He has said that in interviews with Russian journalists.

For years, Russia has been warning NATO not to encroach on its borders, but that is what they have done.

Russia has no authority outside of its borders. If countries wish to join NATO that is their choice and that of the existing members. To say otherwise is saying they do not have the freedom to make associations as they wish. Should we tell Russia they have no right to enter an economic partnership with China? Of course not! What if they wanted to make a military alliance? We might not like it, but that would be the choice of those two nations.
SW-User
@beckyromero I said: "Russia is not Nazi Germany."

Why didn't you read that part?

It is said that Stalin did attempt peace in October 1941. The Soviet Union incorporated many lands, and I believe there are territories he would have let Hitler have.

So-called democracy isn't a given in some countries, and dismantling a system that has been in place for many years has the potential to cause harm. Millions of Russians, ethnic Russians, ended up outside of Russia; institutions were damaged irreparably; oligarchs and mafia took over; inflation became very high; and people became very poor. This is what happens when you dismantle such a vast system so quickly and have nothing good to replace it with.

I like Americans; I like the way they talk about politics, and I like their culture, their history, their national parks, and many other things. At the same time, I believe there has been an arrogance and a lack of understanding dictating your foreign policy for far too long.

NATO is a military alliance, and Russia sees it as a threat. A wise choice would be to step away, but instead you choose to leap forward and go deep into the abyss, taking others with you. The solution to this war is to encourage Ukraine to make a peace deal, encourage Russia to make a peace deal, and then back off. This would mean less fighting, less death, less to no money spent, and more peace and security.
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beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
@SW-User

You said: "In every peace talk, concessions must be made on both sides."

And I replied, "Nonsense! Did the Soviet Union engage in "peace talks" with Nazi Germany in 1944 or 1945?"

And now you start talking about 1941. 😂

Millions of Russians, ethnic Russians, ended up outside of Russia

Maybe they shouldn't have helped Nazi Germany by invading the Baltic nations.

That's what happens when you move into someone else's house without their permission and eventually get evicted decades later.

But that's how Stalin also changed the demographics of Ukraine, by exiling millions to Siberia and populating Ukraine with Russian stock.

And I wonder where we've heard that kind of refrain before ("Millions of Russians, ethnic Russians, ended up outside of Russia")?

Answer: When German leaders in the 1930s talked about Austria, the Sudetenland and Danzig.

Maybe they and the Austrian-Hungarians shouldn't have started a bleeping World War.

NATO is a military alliance, and Russia sees it as a threat.

Well, guess what Sherlock? We saw the occupation of Poland (which the Soviets had invaded in September 1939) and later the Warsaw Pact as a threat. And with Putin trying to move Russia's borders to the western side of Ukraine, we see that as a threat, too.

Have we made mistakes? Damn right we have. But Russia's current leader is not a saint and the Soviet Union and Russia are not blameless in launching wars of aggression. Those are paths they've chosen.
SW-User
@beckyromero Is there something wrong with you? You continue to mention Nazi Germany and Hitler when there is no comparison to be made. What is this obsession with comparing Russia to Nazi Germany all about?

"But that's how Stalin also changed the demographics of Ukraine, by exiling millions to Siberia and populating Ukraine with Russian stock."

Explain? Ukraine already had what you call "Russian stock." Lots of Russian stock. Crimea had been Russian for hundreds of years, although Tatars lived there. Stalin got rid of peoples who were a political threat, or who were perceived as untrustworthy. Tatars were seen as a political threat and, in the mind of Stalin, they had to go. You may have other minority groups in mind, but they can't be Slavic Ukrainian groups. Do tell me you aren't talking about them?

"But Russia's current leader is not a saint and the Soviet Union and Russia are not blameless in launching wars of aggression. Those are paths they've chosen."

This isn't relevant. What is relevant is that there is a conflict in Ukraine that the US is helping to cause, and could stop if they wanted to. Thousands are dying and more will die if the war continues. What are you going to do about it? You need to stop fueling nationalism and wars abroad. Leave Russia alone and there will be no conflict in Ukraine.
RedBaron · M
@SW-User Sorry, Putin and Russia decided on their own to attack Ukraine.

The US had nothing to do with causing it.

The better question is is there something wrong with you?
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SW-User
@RedBaron Why do we need to use the Nazi comparison?
RedBaron · M
@SW-User Why not? It’s a great analogy.

Are you afraid we’ll hurt their feelings?
SW-User
@RedBaron Why is it a great analogy?

I think the intent behind this analogy is to confuse and manipulate. It is deceptive and irrelevant.
RedBaron · M
@SW-User No it’s not. It’s highly relevant and apropos.

Why do you have a problem with analogizing ideological regimes grounded in hatred in general and antisemitism in particular?

And who’s being harmed by it?
SW-User
@RedBaron "Why do you have a problem with analogizing ideological regimes grounded in hatred in general and antisemitism in particular?"

What do you think his ideology is? Putin is not antisemitic, and he is no more hateful than any other leader.

"And who’s being harmed by it?"

Our intelligence is being harmed when we have to read and listen to analogies between Putin and Hitler.
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