Women in France rejoice over enshrined right to abortion

This week, women in France celebrated the newly enshrined right to abort their children.

The US was able to recognize that this right is not constitutional, and could only be if you rewrite the constitution. Since Roe v. Wade was overturned in June 2022, states have been able to decide their own abortion laws.

French president said: "we're sending a message to all women: your body belongs to you and no one can decide for you."

He added he "will not rest" until abortion is introduced to the EU's Charter of Fundamental Rights. In a speech during the ceremony to mark this now constitutional right, he declared this is "freedom, a fight made up of tears, tragedies and broken destinies."

Yes, there are many broken destinies. They are broken because they were taken by abortion.

The Eiffel Tower lit up with the words "#My bodyMychoice." Women in France believe that this is a "victory."

Victory for whom, I wonder?

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Burnley123 · 41-45, M

For women.

SW-User

@Burnley123 Can you tell me what they gain from it?

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@SW-User It makes it harder for abortion to ever be banned in France at any future date. It's not on the agenda ATM but if any future religious nutters take power, this makes it harder for their agenda.

SW-User

@Burnley123 What do women gain from abortions?

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@SW-User Autonomy over their bodies and the choice about whether to have a child or not.

SW-User

@Burnley123 What about the fetal body?

Other women make this choice before they have sex, not after they have sex. You already know that you are going to get pregnant, or most likely will, if you have sex with no contraception or protection. Abortion is birth control when the baby has already been conceived.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@SW-User I once knew someone very well. She was an American woman who had an abortion in her early twenties. She was on contraception but this didn't work and the potential father was an unreliable on- off boy friend. She talked to family and agonised over the decision before eventually going through with it. Years later, she still felt shame.

Almost all women who are sexually active and are not trying for kids use birth control and to say otherwise is deeply ignorant.

No woman with an unwanted pregnancy takes a decision to abort lightly and an early embryo is not a human being and there is no argument to say that it is.

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@Burnley123 If it isn't a human, why did she feel shame years later? I wonder if it is only shame, or something more?

Why are they not human beings? Would you acknowledge that an embryo has a human body, and that it only needs to grow?

Most of the women who get abortions were not using contraception, and if they were they weren't doing it as they should have been.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@SW-User

1) Because of societal pressure.

2) By your logic, a sperm is half a human body that needs to grow. You therefore commit giga genocide every time you masturbate.

3) Citation needed.

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@Burnley123 Society is making them feel shame or guilt? How?

Sperm needs to meet with an egg to create a baby. Without the two combining, there is no other body. When they do combine, and when the blastocyst becomes an embryo, there is a body. It is a very, very small body that needs months of growth, but it is still a body. It is human form.

Citation for what? Women who use contraception don't get pregnant. These days, you can do more than take the pill. Have you heard about the injections they can get? They only need to receive it every three months.