Do u believe Joe Biden should be president of US...for 4 more years ? ☺️🇺🇲
I just watched the [b]State Of Union [/b] from last night a few minutes ago. I admit it was somewhat [b] impressive [/b], but I am not sold. We were promised that in [b]2024[/b] teachers will get a raise, the [b] Affordable Care Act[/b] would be revised and expanded, and that property tax laws will be changed. [b]Biden[/b] said he will crack down on price gouging and the deficit. Overall I give the speech about a [b]7.[/b] It was emotional, captivating, and irresistibly engaging. The [b]Speaker Of The House[/b], Mike Johnson looked uncomfortable. Hmmmm. Maybe he sees [b]Biden[/b] winning again. We shall see. But if [b]Trump[/b] gets [b]20[/b] percent or higher of the [b] Black [/b] vote, it's game over. 🎯 Remember [b] illegal immigrants [/b] ok. Comments. ☺️🇺🇲
This page is a permanent link to the reply below and its nested replies. See all post replies »
As someone on the outside looking in, I can fully understand the frustration of many Americans. They can choose between two men who are both too old to run such an important country. Why is there no 50 year old woman or man to run the country?? What's wrong with the American political class???
@Pfuzylogic You are referring to his State of the Union speech? I haven't seen it yet. In fact I think he is doing a decent job during his first term. In fact if I were an American I'd vote for him, but mainly because the only real alternative would be out of the question, for me.
@helenS [quote]Why is there no 50 year old woman or man to run the country?[/quote]
I've said this back before the 2020 primaries.
That Biden would run. That Biden would win the nomination. That I hoped he would pick Harris as his running mate (to give him the best chance of winning) And that Biden would beat Trump.
Politically, I'm more aligned with Biden than any of the other Democrats running for president in 2020.
But I was also absolutely convinced that NONE of the others would have beaten Trump.
Rule #1 in politics is that if you want to govern, you need to win.
Oh sure, the Lizzy Warren wing of the party and supporters on NON-Democrat Bernie Sanders think they would have beaten Trump. Not to mention two New York mayors and a mystic. But they are delusional. And Trump is too dangerous to be taking chances.
The Democrats have a weak bench. Part of that is because going into Barack Obama's presidency and coming out of out, the Democrats lost some 900 Congressional, state house legislative seats and governorships. Thanks to Trump, the Dems are rebuilding from those losses. But it's a work in progress.
So it's not that there are no 50 year old women or men who can be a decent president. But there are very, very few who could win their party's nomination.
And then do you want to put in a rookie with the World Series on the line?
And the Republicans are not in any better shape, either. Especially now that so many of them have either left elective office because they were primaried by MAGA or lost the stomach for fighting. Thie that are left are mostly tainted by Trump.
@beckyromero Can't argue with what you said, Becky. Only a centrist can win against an extremist. Oh and as far as I can see, all Democratic presidents of the last decades were centrists. Obama was, and Clinton was, too, right?
Bill Clinton, absolutely. He was chair of the Democratic Leadership Council before he ran for president. The DLC was formed after the 1984 election loss (Reagan won 49 states) to move the Democrat Party more towards the center. Not to be at the center, just to move it more to the center on domestic issues.
Obama was not. His political views were much more to the left of Bill, Hillary and Biden. But perhaps Biden as VP and Hillary as Sec State provided some pragmatic voices in the administration, which was also tempered in what Obama wanted to do by a Republican-controlled Congress for his last six years in office.
I was very disappointed in "ObamaCare." Obama basically traded control of Congress for it. It was a BAD trade and BAD strategy. He had the bases loaded with no one out and he went for the squeeze play instead of hitting away. Republicans gave up a run and turned the double-play, 3-6-3, and got control of the Senate and House and pretty much blocked major policy agendas by the administration after that. He could have gotten single-payer passed if he really made an effort, not to mention raising the minimum wage and indexing it to inflation. (Instead, George W. Bush is the last president to sign legislation raising the minimum wage).
As for Biden, I'd put him more to the left of Bill Clinton. But not as far as Obama. More of a traditional liberal in the FDR, Truman, JFK, LBJ mold. And a strong supporter of American strength and international cooperation in foreign policy since 1946 that has keep this nation out of another World War.
Oh, sure. There have been some squabbles over how were should have handle Iraq. But there's no daylight between Biden and presidents before Obama and Trump on dealing with the USSR/Russia. I viewed Obama's candidacy and his first term as being too weak on national defense and foreign affairs. Those were the principle reasons I voted for McCain and Romney.
@helenS I don’t think that the rape conviction should be minimized though. It is violence and the insurrection was only one manifestation of his violent agenda that law has never addressed. @beckyromero
@beckyromero Whether Bernie would have beaten Trump, we don't know and never will.
'Gavin Newsome' is surely the very obvious and literal answer to Helen's question. Centrist Democrat of peak political age and experienced governor of America's most populous state. Can reliably speak in sentences that make sense.
@Burnley123 [quote]Whether Bernie would have beaten Trump, we don't know and never will.[/quote]
The far left in the U.S. always overestimates its voting power. Lizzy and Bernie would have been crushed.
As to Gavin Newsom, consider that first wife is Kimberly Guilfoyle.
So I think it's quite reasonable to have questions about his judgement.
And I can also envision the ads that would run against him reminding voters of him going to the restaturant French Laundry, during Covid and how he granted parole to a kidnapper who forced 26 children and their bus driver into a truck trailer buried underground and demanding a $5 million ransom.
Not to mention that if you can't defeat Ron DeSantis in a debate, WTF?
@Burnley123 [quote]It's not conclusive at all.[/quote]
Oh, I think it is. Same polling in 3/5 to 4/7 period you show had Biden up by much larger margins. In fact, eleven of the 20 polls had Biden leading Trump in [u]double-digits[/u].
As for Gov. Newsom, his biggest liability is the state he governs: California.
Watch this ad.
[media=https://youtu.be/R1RuE3DmnjU]
Then imagine how easy it will be to show homelessness and crime in "fly-over country"'s most hated city: San Francisco.
With the narrator saying, "And Gavin Newsom promises to do for the nation what he's done for California."
At least Kamala Harris will be eight years removed from being a Senator from California.
I'll hear her out but I'd also be looking at some others,especially Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (Michigan), Gov. Josh Shapiro (Pennsylvania), Sen. Michael Bennett (Colorado) and Sen. Chris Murphy (Connecticut).
I'd unequivocally rule out any Trumpets for my vote, even when they do their [i]mea culpas[/i].
So among Republicans, there would be few I'd consider.
Former Gov. John Kasich (Ohio), Sen. Jeff Flake (Arizona), Former Gov. Jeb Bush (Florida) and, yes, Rep. Liz Cheney (Wyoming). Much would depend on the Democrat nominee.
