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How will you react when Donald Trump loses in November? The MAGA's, Patriots, Qanons. Will you cry fraud?

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eli1601 · 70-79, M
Fraud is the only way he could lose.
@eli1601 BinBiden will get 125% of all eligible voters, and 65% of the cemetery/graveyard demographic
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beckyromero · 36-40, F
@eli1601 [quote]Fraud is the only way he could lose.[/quote]

Fraud is the only way the Mets operate their DL. 😉
@eli1601 He lost by millions of popular votes and by MORE electoral
votes than he won in 2016...
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@SomeMichGuy Hence, the fraud
@eli1601 Nope.

That election had recounts--often several--and DJT lost ≈70 court cases in a variety of legal jurisdictions, often accompanied by reprimands from the presiding judge.

DJT lost both the popular vote AND the electoral vote last time (2020).

In 2016, he lost the popular vote but won the electoral college vote.

So he has NEVER won the popular vote.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@SomeMichGuy Hence, the fraud
@eli1601 No, it's [u]your unsupported claim[/u] which is the fraud.

That election was counted and recounted; many millions of people voted, there was a huge turnout.

But, in the end, MILLIONS of people voted against DJT, and there's any number of reasons they would have done so [i]then[/i]...[b]and even MORE reasons to do so [i]now[/i].[/b]
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@SomeMichGuy Recounting the same illegal ballots = the same result
@eli1601 Ah, yeah--if the much-vaunted "binders" of Guiliani had had ANY [u]actual[/u] evidence, it would have been litigated.

They were thrown out of courts of various jurisdictions across the country.

Heck, during the hearings for the Jan 6 Cmte, [c=BF0000]the lawyer for election problems FOR TRUMP testified that he had "run every accusation [of illegal ballots] to ground" and found NOTHING.[/c]

He was in a better position than ANYone else to know, including either of us.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@SomeMichGuy Sure he did
@eli1601 It was broadcast on TV. It was open, public testimony, not a closed-door, hidden proceeding.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@SomeMichGuy Right 🤣
@eli1601 I'm sorry you are so under-/ill-informed. It was riveting testimony.

I'm sure you could find it with a search engine...just like I'm sure you won't, because you don't want to look foolish.

It's too late.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@SomeMichGuy Sure it was 🤣
@eli1601
Here's some pages from the Executive Summary of the Jan 6th report which refer to the tracking down the truth of every lead about "fraud".

p. 12

p. 13

p. 14

p. 15

p. 16

p. 17

p. 18
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@SomeMichGuy 🤣 You mean from the democrats staged hearings with no cross examination?
@eli1601 The witnesses were nearly all Republicans.

The President and people around him broke the law, knowingly, in various ways. This was made crystal clear by people right there, not 3rd hand, etc.

But you're clearly a "cliff notes" kind of guy, I get it. It's easier to regurgitate bs you heard passed around by fools, than to actually look at something, yourself.

But here you are being spoon fed and still can't digest the truth of what *Republican* witness after *Republican* witness testified, under oath, was the truth.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@SomeMichGuy 🤣Nice try. Republicans like Liz Chaney. May as well have been related to Nancy Pelosi.
@eli1601

Do you understand the word "witness"?
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@SomeMichGuy 🤣 So we are back to no cross examination 🤣
@eli1601 You can't deal with Republicans coming forward to offer testimony which you can't refute.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@SomeMichGuy About that cross examination. I believe there was none.
@eli1601 It was not a trial, it was an investigation.

The witnesses were almost all Republicans who came forth to tell the truth about what they saw, heard, knew.

You can wonder about it, but most testimony was in public, much was televised. You could have watched it instead of thinking that pissing on it after it is now history will change it.

Many people told DJT he'd lost the election and he acknowledged it, but still went ahead with lies, misinformation, and plans to steal the election.

But you'd have to have paid attention to the unfiltered happening or read...

So enjoy your ignorance.
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@SomeMichGuy It was a trial. A manipulation presented as truth. They even hired a guy from ABC to make it "compelling." Some people were fooled.