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Trump Throws NATO Under The Putin Bus

Trump says he'd 'encourage' Russia to attack NATO allies who don't pay their bills
FEBRUARY 11, 20242:12 AM ET
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The Associated Press

NEW YORK — Republican front-runner Donald Trump said Saturday that, as president, he warned NATO allies that he "would encourage" Russia "to do whatever the hell they want" to countries that are "delinquent" as he ramped up his attacks on foreign aid and longstanding international alliances.

Speaking at a rally in Conway, South Carolina, Trump recounted a story he has told before about an unidentified NATO member who confronted him over his threat not to defend members who fail to meet the trans-Atlantic alliance's defense spending targets.

But this time, Trump went further, saying had told the member that he would, in fact, "encourage" Russia to do as it wishes in that case.

'You didn't pay? You're delinquent?'" Trump recounted saying. "'No I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. You gotta pay. You gotta pay your bills.'"

NATO allies agreed in 2014, after Russia annexed Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula, to halt the spending cuts they had made after the Cold War and move toward spending 2% of their GDPs on defense by 2024.

White House spokesperson Andrew Bates responded, saying that: "Encouraging invasions of our closest allies by murderous regimes is appalling and unhinged – and it endangers American national security, global stability, and our economy at home."

Trump's comments come as Ukraine remains mired in its efforts to stave off Russia's 2022 invasion and as Republicans in Congress have become increasingly skeptical of providing additional aid money to the country as it struggles with stalled counteroffensives and weapons shortfalls.

They also come as Trump and his team are increasingly confident he will lock up the nomination in the coming weeks following commanding victories in the first votes of the 2024 Republican nominating calendar.

During his 2016 campaign, Trump alarmed Western allies by warning that the United States, under his leadership, might abandon its NATO treaty commitments and only come to the defense of countries that meet the alliance's guidelines by committing 2 percent of their gross domestic products to military spending.

Trump, as president, eventually endorsed NATO's Article 5 mutual defense clause, which states that an armed attack against one or more of its members shall be considered an attack against all members. But he often depicted NATO allies as leeches on the U.S. military and openly questioned the value of the military alliance that has defined American foreign policy for decades.

As of 2022, NATO reported that seven of what are now 31 NATO member countries were meeting that obligation — up from three in 2014. Russia's 2022 invasion of Ukraine has spurred additional military spending by some NATO members.

Trump has often tried to take credit for that increase, and bragged again Saturday that, as a results of his threats, "hundreds of billions of dollars came into NATO"— even though countries do not pay NATO directly.

Note: Article above edited...you can easily read the entire piece at the AP, Guardian, NPR, and many other sources.

Never forget: Trump stood before us and the world in Helsinki, and sided with war criminal Putin, over our allies and intel agencies. He touted Putin as a genius for invading Ukraine.
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IronHamster · 56-60, M
No. NATO is saved by Trump. 100%.
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@IronHamster comically stupid!
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@22Michelle Liberal claims usually are, aren't they. That wasn't a question, just for clarity.
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@IronHamster Agreed, just more stupidity.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@22Michelle I'm looking forward to having Trump back in office, too.
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@IronHamster Well you're doubling down on stupidity, but I very much doubt that's going to happen. He can rely on his base to turn out, but he pisses off far too many people.
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IronHamster · 56-60, M
@22Michelle I think you get trounced in Chess because you can't think two moves ahead, and never in your life did you earn six figures nor cook a meal with more than ten ingredients.
@IronHamster then why did he offer it to Russia?
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@SatyrService Why do you think that is what he did?
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@IronHamster Wrong on all three counts, but I'm afraid that's what I'd expect from anyone buying into Trump's bullshit. Trump's posturing only increased Putin's confidence to move against Ukraine. So, I suppose you can claim that in an indirect way that has pushed some countries into increasing their defence spending. Then again how much has Putin's invasion of Ukraine cost the USA?
And why is it Americans always resort to personal abuse whenbanybov their debating points are questioned?
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@22Michelle It's ok to have your own opinion, but it's not ok to have your own facts. As a TDS sufferer, you must experience this issue a lot. Talk with your therapist, and see if you can get a referral to a good psychiatrist.

Putin's invasion was always in his plans, but he didn't DARE move while Trump was in office. How can you possibility explain not seeing that given the facts everyone else has?
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@IronHamster Dream on. Why do you people always have names like IronHamster, Steel Hands, Stoneface, etc? Reallyvseems like you're hiding something from yourself?
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@22Michelle Well, as a "T" you should be familiar with the psychiatric issues of not being able to accept things you can't change. I have no illusion about my height, but for my weight class I boxed pretty well, and I have the rest of the sixes. In my downhill slide to old age, I have plenty of options in my sex life. So, there is me. How are you doing?
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@IronHamster I'm doing really well. In fact things are going better than they have for many years. Why do you mention your height? I have no idea what you mean by "sixes". Never did box8ng, I was more into martial arts, but not in many years, still a bit of a gym bunny though. And, if you're interested my sex life is going really well, though it's something that most of us, if we're honest, always want more of. And having "options" is always good, so well done you.
And just to mention. In a previous post you mentioned not having your "own facts". Well since we are disagreeing on Trump's impact on NATO spending we're both giving opinions. That is unless you can produce some documentation that demonstrates a NATO member decided to increase spending on defence as a direct result of Trump's speech.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@22Michelle Ok. Back to NATO. If you had a roommate that was not paying his rent, but you knew he could, would you coddle him and say you loved him as a roommate and it was ok because you'd pick up his rent and even his utilities and cook and clean for him? Be real about this.
JSul3 · 70-79
@IronHamster You love Putin and Trump.
We get it.
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@IronHamster That's a truly very odd and weird comparison. And my reaction in such a scenario would depend on what my real relatiinship with the individual was.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@22Michelle So, you are cool being taken advantage of. Ok. Do that with your own money, not mine. It is none of my business if you waste your resources on freeloaders. As for me, gas, grass, or ass. Nobody rides for free.
JSul3 · 70-79
@IronHamster You fail to see that NATO is an defense alliance that was created after WW2 to combat communism.....or any other aggressor.

Sort of like : One for All and All For One! An attack on 1 is an attack on all.

Remember 911? Article 5 was evoked and all members stepped up to support and defend the US.
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@JSul3 As any typical liberal you project so much on others that it's pointless to respond. This response alone is a high plateau on the mountain of pointlessness.
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@IronHamster Wow, you really are an example of peak Dunning Kruger!
IronHamster · 56-60, M
@22Michelle Oh. Really?! Hmmmm.