"Immigrants are poisoning the blood of our county"
says Trump to a crowd of supporters who have grandparents/great-grandparents who came from another country to live in the States...
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sascha · F
Is there anything else he should say if immigrants entering the U.S *now* are poisoning the blood of the country?
Did you know that he was using figurative language?
Why do people think this comment is racist? He said immigrants were "coming from all over the world", and one would presume this includes countries with Whites. Was he being racist toward Whites?
Did you know that he was using figurative language?
Why do people think this comment is racist? He said immigrants were "coming from all over the world", and one would presume this includes countries with Whites. Was he being racist toward Whites?
Zeusdelight · 61-69, M
@sascha You have heard him speak before, haven't you? Put this comment in the context of previous comments and I think it is very clear what eh is saying.
sascha · F
@Zeusdelight Why is it clear? What has he said before?
Zeusdelight · 61-69, M
@sascha Here is a brief extract from a Wikipedia article on Trump. "Donald Trump, former president of the United States, has a history of speech and actions that have been viewed by scholars and the public as racist or white supremacist. Journalists, friends, family, and former employees have accused him of fueling racism in the United States. Trump has repeatedly denied accusations of racism."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump
I searched on Trump and racism and received close to 40 million results. Now, not all these comments are in agreement with each other, however, that should give you a start as to what comments he has made, and how they have been viewed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump
I searched on Trump and racism and received close to 40 million results. Now, not all these comments are in agreement with each other, however, that should give you a start as to what comments he has made, and how they have been viewed.
sascha · F
@Zeusdelight I asked you to tell me what he has said that is racist, which you have failed to do. All you have done is tell me that a Wikipedia article says that other people have speculated he is racist, and that he has denied being so. An internet search result, with what you claim to be 40 million results, also does not show he is racist. The thoughts of others are proof of nothing.
What has he said that is racist? White people live "all over the world", so perhaps if he is racist, he also dislikes Whites?
What has he said that is racist? White people live "all over the world", so perhaps if he is racist, he also dislikes Whites?
Zeusdelight · 61-69, M
@sascha You may not think I have answered the question. I think I have.
I have provided material for you to read for you to make up your own mind. It appears you want me to summarise that information for you, so you can pick it apart from the perspective of your own view.
I am not here to discuss anything with people who already have a view and who don't really want to explore other possibilities.
I have provided material for you to read for you to make up your own mind. It appears you want me to summarise that information for you, so you can pick it apart from the perspective of your own view.
I am not here to discuss anything with people who already have a view and who don't really want to explore other possibilities.
sascha · F
@Zeusdelight This is what you said:
[quote]You have heard him speak before, haven't you? Put this comment in the context of previous comments and I think it is very clear what eh is saying.[/quote]
To this, I asked you to tell me why it is clear, and what he said that is racist. Telling me that other people have said he is racist is not the same.
If you like, you can tell me what you find racist on his part. What did he say? What did he do? Is there anything in particular you find racist?
[quote]You have heard him speak before, haven't you? Put this comment in the context of previous comments and I think it is very clear what eh is saying.[/quote]
To this, I asked you to tell me why it is clear, and what he said that is racist. Telling me that other people have said he is racist is not the same.
If you like, you can tell me what you find racist on his part. What did he say? What did he do? Is there anything in particular you find racist?
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@sascha he literally only mentioned countries and regions that are famously not white.
sascha · F
@basilfawlty89 Such as? West Asia is mostly Caucasian, and parts of Africa have White populations.
"From all over the world" implies all countries, which would include White countries.
"From all over the world" implies all countries, which would include White countries.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@sascha lol please. You know full well what he meant. You're trying to use proof by verbosity. It's not a valid argument.
sascha · F
@basilfawlty89 Tell me, what did he mean? Do you know? Are you certain? What is racist now?
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@sascha I'm pretty that attacking any immigrants other than white immigrants is racism and every definition.
sascha · F
@basilfawlty89 Who was he attacking? It seems he has an issue with immigration of all peoples.
If immigrants do not benefit the populations they come to, why should they be accepted or embraced?
If immigrants do not benefit the populations they come to, why should they be accepted or embraced?