@SW-User His family owned and emerald mine. His father, Errol, went as far as to say that emerald money paid for his son's move to the US, where Elon would go on to attend the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton Business School on scholarship — with, apparently, emerald-generated cash in his pocket for living expenses. In other words, according to the senior Musk, it sounds a lot like Elon's entire road to wealth and fame beyond South Africa was paved with Zambian emeralds.
"During that time," said Errol, speaking to Elon's college years, "I managed to send money I made from emerald sales to him and [Elon's brother, Kimbal Musk] for living expenses."
After that? Here's Elon's reasoning: "I own 20% of a company that became very valuable." People with money make money. People who don't, do not.
And since when is the standard of success how much money someone makes? Yeah, he's gotten a good flow, but how successful is the nurse who saves 130 patients over her career? Or the educator who saw thousands of children of to college over his career?
If it's just the guys with money you admire, then you will be forever ruled by the guys with money.
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@Graylight ...and still, it remains, I don't think a guy worth $248 billion will worry about his hat being backwards.
@Graylight I'm not sure what cash buying you time on television has to do with anything. This was his own livestream, and given the revealing nature of the subject, it is not likely to be broadcast by many of the mainstream media outlets.
Do you think he shouldn't have been there because he's a business owner? That's strange.
What about the fact he has property in Texas? I read he has two properties there, so he could say that he is a concerned resident.
Considering how widespread this issue is, he can also say that he is a concerned citizen.
He was there with the approval of the city's mayor, who appears to be very worried himself. Rolando Salinas participated in Musk's stream and told us all how bad the situation is.
Your concern about X (formerly Twitter) is touching, but I don't think he needs it.
@SW-User I have no concern about X, the brand formerly known as Twitter. Never had an account, never used it, hope it fades away.
So when's the giant caravan of "concerned citizens" and businessmen launching? After all, anyone who wants to may go south and further confuse an already difficult situation by offering uninformed opinions..
Why do you see it as a "difficult situation"? What makes it difficult?
He wasn't confusing anyone. If you were confused by his livestream, there may be something wrong with you.
I have watched parts of it, and he is mostly asking questions. When he makes a comment of his own, I see agreement from those he is asking questions to.
Do you not think that local politicians and the local sheriff are reliable sources of information?
Can you explain your perspective on any of this? So far, you have acknowledged a difficult situation, but you don't seem to support concerned citizens asking about this difficult situation. Why?
@SW-User X is fast becoming a platform for hate and misinformation. The European Union recently dubbed 'X' the worst ratio of disinformation/misinformation to posts not spreading falsehoods among mainstream social networks. Elon Musk disabled a feature that let users report misinformation about elections. "It would be helpful to understand why X have seemingly gone backwards on their commitments to mitigating the kind of serious misinformation that has translated into real political instability in the US, especially on the eve of the 'bumper year' of elections globally," said Alice Dawkins, executive director of Reset.Tech Australia.
Immigration is difficult right now. Is that hard to understand or do you really think all Dems want an open border?
More celebrities walking around Ground Zero for anything adds to chaos and confusion. Have you been out in the world yet? And Musk is qualified to say absolutely nothing on a subject he knows so little about.
Citizens can ask anything they want. They can visit the border, though it's not all that exciting in most places. But if tour companies of rally folk were to suddenly put a southern border crossing on their itinerary, no one's going to be too keen on busloads of people looking for a photo opp. And that's what Musk did. And Jesus, Mary & Joseph - do you seriously believe Elon Musk is concerned for anything but his own wealth?
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@Graylight The European Union also demands that every member state, regardless of their respective electorates, follow a rigid and undemocratic set of rules. Seemingly, though, the label of "European Union" is enough to convince you that this is a credible report?
I don't see any argument here. This is the internet, and people are allowed to express their views. Terms like "disinformation" and "misinformation" are often used to discredit individuals with opposing views. In essence, these terms are self-describing. They are disinformation.
Now, this isn't to say that information can't be inaccurate, not true, or false, but this is not unique. All people believe information that is either not true, or only partially true. In the end, we just determine our own truth. There are falsehoods and lies on all sides, and all people fall for it. I can, with certainty, say that you are likely to believe lies from the left. Before you try to tell yourself that this can't be so, I can tell you that the left does lie, and does use what you call disinformation. All the time.
As I explain below, you are lying too.
You have only repeated that immigration is difficult. I want to know why you think it's difficult?
I have been out in the world many times. Some true information: I happen to live in it.
If you think "citizens can ask anything they want", why do you have a problem with Musk going to Eagle Pass, TX, to ask questions?
Also, why does someone need to be qualified on a subject to comment on or ask questions about it? This is absurd, and an obvious lie. It's a lie because you would not say that if his comments or questions aligned with your politics. If Elon Musk went there and said "I don't see an issue with any of these people, let's let them all in..." you would never comment on his alleged lack of qualifications. Therefore, you are a disingenuous liar. This insistence that he is not qualified, and that you think being qualified matters (you don't - not when you like the person or the politics) is very clearly disinformation.
As for his wealth and what he may or may not be concerned about, this is not relevant. I argue that it is disinformation when you make unproven or wrong assertions as to his intentions. It's also disinformation when you suggest or accuse him of saying and doing things he didn't do. Again, all he did was ask questions about the border. That is it.
In a single response alone, you have engaged in several examples of misinformation and disinformation. In other parts of your writing, you engaged in speculation. You demonstrated a lack of desire to understand a person or a situation because of pre-existing bias. You tried to detract from your own faults by asking if I had been out in the world. And, you lied by saying that you think citizens have the right to ask questions.
