SCOTUS strikes down the Biden student loan handout.

@Gloomy Yep. All the boomers and Gen Xers patting themselves on the back about paying off their loans in the good ole days ignore the fact that state support for higher Ed has cratered in the last 30-40 years. Mostly due to Republican state legislatures.

@Gloomy should all college staff have a salary cap?

@Gloomy The best incentive to bring down the costs is to expect people to PAY the bills they have incurred.

@MarineBob A certain limit should be in place for everyone (maximum and minmum wage)

@MarineBob sure. That's not where the high costs are coming from, so it's a very American thing to do! A solution that can't work.

@Gloomy pathetic is the new patriotism.
And socialism in this country, is only for the uber rich.
How much in subsidies, loan write offs and tax relief do the largest and most profit heavy recieve?
How much do these right-wing judges get in free benefits? Seems one fishing trip could pay for several of those loans.

@irishmolly72 Idiots the whole western world affords to educate its people and societies are better for it.
The issue with the pay back approach is that 1. Costs for education are insanely and unjustifiably high in the first place 2. It's classist with people born rich having easier access and are more likely to study 3. It makes proffessions homogenous since some jobs even pay little with a major 4. In the US the percentage of people making a masters degree is much lower

@Carla That's why illegal immigrants attempt to flood in here by the millions, right?

@luckranger71 The current crop of college graduates will likely be the wealthiest aggregation of human beings who ever lived. Yeah! Let's subsidize THEM! 🤣

@irishmolly72 the foreign Visa workers are the managers. Americans aren't necessarily important as workers. You cannot have wealth and be completely clueless tools. That's the past.

@irishmolly72 Could you back this up with data?
So it's about envy?
I thought right wingers don't want to tax the rich...

@Gloomy Then why don't people flock to the countries that subsidize everything instead of coming to the US? Oh that's right, because their economies are anemic failures.

@irishmolly72 even working the fields and putting up with extreme hate and prejudice is better than dying at the hands of criminal gangs, starvation, and lawlessness.

@irishmolly72 closed borders. You think we don't try? LoL. That's because Sweden isn't open and it's not really socialist. The West isn't open. But they're killing the planet!
Free trade means borders closed to people and open to money.

@irishmolly72 Not at all it has more to do with geographic reasons, opportunities etc...
Like from the middle east a huge migration wave goes to Europe, Asians tend to go to Canada because agreements exist, ...

@irishmolly72 Not sure where the evidence for your first sentence is, but if it’s true thank the booming economy created by President Biden’s policies.

For the reminder, you are missing the point: this is about people who have graduated and are working. Again, if you went to college in the 70s through the late 80s you WERE subsidized by the taxpayers. It was recognized at the time as an investment in an educated populace who would then themselves be able to invest/spend and grow the economy without a large amount of debt.

Right now college is unaffordable to all but the wealthy and upper middle class. Gloomy’s point is correct: there is far less class mobility in the US than in the rest of the developed world and the cost of higher Ed is a huge factor.

@Roundandroundwego China's not culpable of killing the planet? We must be talking about different planets.

p.s. Is that you, Greta???

@irishmolly72 nope. But you can use that excuse. It's okay to be unaccountable. Nobody thinks Americans can tell the truth. Everyone knows you can kill us all over and over.

@irishmolly72 Co2 emissions per capita are higher in the US than in China but yeah neither is perfect and both countries should invest more in green energy. China is going in that direction but still builts coal driven industries

@Gloomy And China steals our IP. So should they also take some responsibility for the co2 that created the IP?

@irishmolly72 as all countries should take responsibility. Too bad Murka is a sociopath. But the trade agreements made it required that technology is always shared. Now that is something to lie about. The US lies about China a lot.

@irishmolly72 Deflection from the actual topic that is being discussed.
I'm really tired of countries like US and China constantly comparing it's cock lenght like boys in puberty.

@irishmolly72 nurses, teachers, no. The wealthy ones were not included in the debt relief.

@luckranger71 When I went to school, it cost almost nothing to attend the top state's school. With spending cuts, and diversion of more funds to the military, starting with when Reagan got to office, tuition and fees skyrocketed, forcing students to sink deeper into debt.

One could argue that loans should not have been given to students enrolled in certain majors, but the genesis of this is financial deregulation that favored certain conservatives.

@irishmolly72 [quote] The current crop of college graduates will likely be the wealthiest aggregation of human beings who ever lived. Yeah! Let's subsidize THEM! [/quote]



BUULLLLSHIIIIT


Most college grads especially in STEM and medicine are forced to work two jobs to pay off their student loans while finding it difficult to fimd gainful epmployement in their fields. Meanwhile bug business continues to take on interns for the positions these grads ahould be filling because " they work cheap AF".