What if no one wanted to work but we all demanded free Healthcare, free housing and food?

@NativePortlander1970

@BohemianBoo Ever hear of Siberia (Soviet exile) and outer Mongolia (CCP exile), hmmm?

@NativePortlander1970 State Capitalism =/= Socialism

@BohemianBoo Who's teaching you this bullshit, hmmm?

@NativePortlander1970 Who's teaching me the difference between State Capitalism and Socialism? Nobody, I actually learn on my own. I'm guessing you just get your talking-points from memes.

@NativePortlander1970 Slave laborers in the gulag accounted for a great percentage of the USSR's industrial output.

@BohemianBoo I'm 53, I learned all about true Communism and Socialism while researching them and doing debates in high school during the 80's, and even discovering that the founding fathers of the United States endorsed and approved of Socialism, as shown in the Preamble of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. I suggest you peruse this site. https://www.jurist.org/commentary/2009/10/our-socialist-founding-fathers/

@graphite It was either that, or the firing squad or the gallows.

@NativePortlander1970 So then how do you think that the Soviet Union had Socialism or Communism? Shouldn't you know what those terms mean?

@BohemianBoo Because dictatorial despots used Socialism and Communism as bait and hooks to gain totalitarianistic power.

@NativePortlander1970 Yep, promise a nirvana, and a "workers paradise" and deliver Hell on Earth, instead. I met a couple Cuban refugees who escaped Castro's Cuba 40something years ago.

@NativePortlander1970 Sure, but that doesn't mean those actually were socialist or communist societies. The Republicans use economic prosperity as bait, that doesn't mean they build economic prosperity when they're in office.

@graphite Exactly

@BohemianBoo Graphite and I have a lot more years in life experience and observation, when I did my research for the debate club the cold war was still going strong, both him and I were shocked to see the collapse of Soviet Russia and the fall of the Berlin wall, you only read about those events, him and I saw it in real time as it was happening.

@NativePortlander1970 That's nice, but that has nothing to do with what I said.

@BohemianBoo It refutes and debunks everything you claim.

@NativePortlander1970 My claim is that the Soviet Union had State Capitalism, not Socialism or Communism.

@BohemianBoo Soviet Russia was far from capitalist, not even close. Like I asked, who's teaching you this blatant pure bullshit.

@NativePortlander1970 Educate yourself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism

@BohemianBoo Never trust wikipedia as a "source" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙄 "educate" myself? I LIVED THROUGH IT, I personally KNEW people from Portland's Little Russia that escaped through defection that I worked with, that told me how life was behind the Iron Curtain.

@NativePortlander1970 Yes, you know the USSR was bad, congratulations. What I'm saying is you don't understand what the politics of the USSR were.
And Wikipedia articles actually have to have citations, which is why bullshit artists like you don't like it.

@NativePortlander1970