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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
Lots of otherwise healthy people dying suddenly of unknown or cardiac reasons these days.
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@SumKindaMunster oh ffs Munster , don't tell me you're jumping on that particular conspiracy theory too ? I gave you a bit more credit than that.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LegendofPeza Conspiracy theory? Feel free to do the research yourself.
BizSuitStacy · M
@SumKindaMunster Many people are dying, and even more are experiencing other serious health issues.
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@SumKindaMunster I already have , and I've already debunked it after a long back and forth with SW's most famous conspiracy theory nutcase.
So congratulations to you , you are now truly in exalted company.
So congratulations to you , you are now truly in exalted company.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LegendofPeza What are you talking about? I'm simply noting that a lot of people are "dying suddenly", who didn't have a clear reason for dying, or it was some sort of heart issue.
Feel free to google "dying suddenly" and seeing what I mean.
Feel free to google "dying suddenly" and seeing what I mean.
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@SumKindaMunster You mean you're not insinuating that there is some correlation between sudden adult deaths and the vaccines ?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LegendofPeza I honestly don't know, but I haven't rejected that notion out of hand. I'm wondering if there is something to it, but that doesn't mean to me its a clear cause and effect...there could be other factors involved.
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@SumKindaMunster Figures show no spike in deaths since the vaccines were introduced and there appears to be no evidence whatsoever so far linking COVID-19 vaccines and such deaths.
The SADS (Sudden Adult Death Syndrome) Foundation in the US has issued a statement and said it recommends that SADS patients receive the COVID-19 shot.
"There is no evidence suggesting that any of the available Covid-19 vaccines cause people to develop SADS conditions, or make people's SADS conditions more severe."
Suggestions of a link between the vaccine and sudden deaths is simply conspiracy theory talk. It's just more nudge nudge , wink wink nonsense.
Please don't lower yourself to that level.
The SADS (Sudden Adult Death Syndrome) Foundation in the US has issued a statement and said it recommends that SADS patients receive the COVID-19 shot.
"There is no evidence suggesting that any of the available Covid-19 vaccines cause people to develop SADS conditions, or make people's SADS conditions more severe."
Suggestions of a link between the vaccine and sudden deaths is simply conspiracy theory talk. It's just more nudge nudge , wink wink nonsense.
Please don't lower yourself to that level.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LegendofPeza Well perhaps you wont' understand this, but I've lived long enough not to trust the establishment on issues where they have a lot to lose by admitting a problem. If there is something to this, it will be a long time before its finally admitted to.
The government and medical establishment said Phen-fen was safe, as were SSRIs. They said Oxycontin was not addictive. They said acid reflux medications were safe, but they actually increase cancer risk. We've had issues with vaccines before, it's not out of the realm of possibilities that there is something here.
If you choose to view it as an either/or argument, I don't know what to tell you. I'm not taking a side on this, I am just interested to see how it develops.
The government and medical establishment said Phen-fen was safe, as were SSRIs. They said Oxycontin was not addictive. They said acid reflux medications were safe, but they actually increase cancer risk. We've had issues with vaccines before, it's not out of the realm of possibilities that there is something here.
If you choose to view it as an either/or argument, I don't know what to tell you. I'm not taking a side on this, I am just interested to see how it develops.
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@SumKindaMunster I totally understand vaccine hesitancy , and I'm not about to crucify anyone over it. Where I do draw the line though is with people who suggest that the vaccines are killing untold numbers of people , without a single shred of evidence to support such an assertion. That was the implication the op was making in the post , and what I , wrongly , thought you were agreeing with.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LegendofPeza I don't believe that there is a nefarious group purposefully killing people with the vaccines.
I do believe, however, that it is entirely possible the vaccine is killing people for reasons yet undiscovered. It could be the vaccine, it could be Covid, it could be another unknown X factor, but it is entirely possible and we won't know until enough evidence has been uncovered and people are forced to consider it a possibility.
I don't think it should be dismissed out of hand, and I don't think its necessary to label such people as conspiracy theorists and shame them for their beliefs.
I do believe, however, that it is entirely possible the vaccine is killing people for reasons yet undiscovered. It could be the vaccine, it could be Covid, it could be another unknown X factor, but it is entirely possible and we won't know until enough evidence has been uncovered and people are forced to consider it a possibility.
I don't think it should be dismissed out of hand, and I don't think its necessary to label such people as conspiracy theorists and shame them for their beliefs.