This Place has reached a new low.

@BohemianBoo Ya true, at least he's upfront about his evil.

@BohemianBoo Most dictatorial leftists just pretend to be "woke".

@LamontCranston No such thing as a dictatorial Leftist. Leftists always fight for Democracy. Even dictators like Xi, who claim to be Socialists, are opposed by the Left and supported by the Right.

@BohemianBoo Sure thing, Boo. You are enslaved by your definitions.

@LamontCranston You're defined by your enslavements.

@BohemianBoo Clever! But my observation is still correct.

@LamontCranston You didn't make an observation. You just said a string of words and hoped they formed a point, which they did not.

@BohemianBoo I want you to record and keep this "reply" of yours. That way you can use it when you have nothing which can refute or respond to an opposing viewpoint.
Basically to you, "there can be NO enemies on the left", no matter what horrors they perpetrate. That is your [i]fundamental[/i] failing, Boo.

@LamontCranston [quote]Basically to you, "there can be NO enemies on the left", no matter what horrors they perpetrate. That is your fundamental failing, Boo.[/quote]

No, what I said was there are no Leftists who want a dictatorship. Leftists believe in Democracy. If you don't want both the government and the workplace to be democratized, then you're not a Leftist.

Now, does this mean Leftists can't do bad things? Of course not. I'm sure there have been horrible people who still had a left-wing ideology. But if a person claims to be a Leftist, while also supporting Authoritarianism, then they're either lying or don't know what Leftism is.

@BohemianBoo To repeat, you are enslaved by your definitions. Stalin could not have been a leftist even though he ran the Soviet Union for decades.

@BohemianBoo Source?

@LamontCranston The USSR was not left wing.

@LamontCranston The Soviet Union was right-wing. It was a fascist Dictatorship that just called itself socialist.

@LoneVoice Source for what?

@BohemianBoo Of course it was. And Maoist China? Do you rewrite history to fit your definitions?

@LamontCranston Please do some reading about basic Socialism. Socialism requires Democracy. If a Dictatorship, like Maoist China, simply calls itself "socialist," it's still a right-wing Dictatorship.

@BohemianBoo @BohemianBoo You are the one who needs to do some study. You have turned history on its head. I;ll say again: you are a slave of your definitions.
Haven't you read all the fawning descriptions of the Soviet state by leading liberals of the 1930s? Even some in FDR's administration?
You are incredibly ignorant.

@LamontCranston The point is, left or right, would you prefer a dictatorship over democracy? It's deplorable that people actually want to live like a slave in a dictatorship?

I did not mention in my post which side of the spectrum he came from, why are you so self-defensive?

@JimboSaturn My statements in this mini-thread are directed at Boo's inability to see tyranny on the left.
I personally support constitutional republics with strong protection of individual rights, including free speech (even of the sort the person you originally wrote about spouts).

@LamontCranston [quote]Haven't you read all the fawning descriptions of the Soviet state by leading liberals of the 1930s? Even some in FDR's administration?
You are incredibly ignorant.[/quote]

So what's your point? They didn't understand Socialism either? Do you think I'm a big FDR stan or something?

@JimboSaturn [quote] aren't we all supporters of democracy?
[/quote]

Not Righties.

@BohemianBoo Well actually Budwick even sided with me and we disagree on everything pretty much. Some are not that crazy lol

@JimboSaturn I'd ask him if he actually opposes Trumpism. If not, then he doesn't care about Democracy.

@BohemianBoo No he loves Trump of course but he does not see him as oppose to democracy