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What has the Democrat Party actually done for black Americans?

They voted against abolishing slavery and supported Jim Crow laws. For the past several decades, they have created horrible neighborhoods (e.g subsidized housing) and moved black people into those horrible neighborhoods. They encourage welfare, which makes black people less inclined to pursue an education and build a better life as they become dependent on the state. Now, they have reached the point where their leader says that black people "ain't black" if they choose not to vote Democrat. This shows how much of a threat black Americans are to Democrats when they know that *they* are the party keeping them poor and making their lives more miserable. Before you think that "black people can't get jobs 'cos racism", consider that black people CAN get jobs and that there aren't any obstacles in their way that white people also don't have. We know that if you are poor, it's harder to get an education and go to college, but it is possible and you can do it if you have the belief and determination to. Even without a college education, there are decent paying jobs that only require you to have graduated high-school.

It seems to me that the Democrat Party just want to keep black people in a cycle of misfortune and poverty so they keep voting for them, thinking there is no real way out of that cycle. If they are kept poor, they will vote for the party that professes a greater interest in giving them welfare, etc. The Democrats don't want black people to get out of this cycle because then they would realize that they have no use for the Democrat Party and they would move away from voting for them. Ideology aside, there is a reason why even moderately successful people tend to vote conservative.

Even with a basic lower middle-class income, or indeed any kind of income, black people in America are more likely to not vote Democrat.
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Turtlepower · 36-40, M
So you can't look at American political history through the lense of Democrat and Republican. When democrats voted against abolishing slavery they mostly consisted of conservative southerners. The political agendas of both parties swapped. Let it be known that neither party has helped black people considering both parties are dominated by wealthy and mostly people with an agenda that only wants to help themselves.
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@Turtlepower You can look at it that way when you have the leader of the Democrat Party saying that black people who don't vote for them aren't black lol.

No agendas have swapped because the Democrats do nothing to help black Americans.
carpediem · 61-69, M
@Turtlepower This swap theory is just a BS lie. Something you lefties tell yourselves to escape your role in history. It’s BS. You realize that the democrats filibustered the equal rights amendment in the 60’s. The 1960’s.

I have no clue why any black Person would vote democrat.
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
@Turtlepower
mostly consisted of conservative southerners

wrong...

conservative southerners were far too poor to even be able to afford slaves back then. The slaveowners/plantation owners were rich democrats. The proof lies in the last names, blacks back then took their last names after their owners, to which around here, are all democrat families (Davis, Poe, etc.)
Turtlepower · 36-40, M
@carpediem @wildbill83 Not wrong at all. It's part of history. Just look at how the regions have voted. It's easily searchable and very obvious when it happened. Believe what you want but that doesn't change history. Northerners haven't changed politically as a whole. They've always been a majority liberal. Back then liberal was Republican, now it's Democrat. Both parties hate minorites
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
@Turtlepower
It's easily searchable
. lol, on what, some inaccurate, flawed, biased source like wikipedia?

I don't need to search it, my family/ancestors lived it; every republican family around here was so poor that no one even knew there was a depression in the 20's until some northerners came around and told them. 90%+ of the south was agrarian, most families were struggling themselves, let alone be able to afford slaves. Plantation owners all had ties/family in the north (i.e. democrats), and were descendants from old world aristocrats with money like the English. Southerners descended from poor blue collar countries (Ireland, Scotland, Germany, Scandinavia, etc.), many of which emigrated to escape plague and famine in Europe.

The north was, and still is in many regards oppressive to the south, as it always has been. Hell, they can't even take responsibility for the civil war they caused, instead blaming a bunch of poor southern farmers...

And still to this day, people have this imaginary belief that the north was some kind of utopian paradise in the mid 1800's, when in reality, abolition caused far more outrage and resentment than it ever did in the south which culminated to a series of riots and violence that nearly destroyed cities like new york.

Yes, I'm very aware of history. I choose the believe the facts/truth, not some twisted fucked up rendition of it just so some yankees could sleep better at night...
Adrift · 61-69, F
@SW-User when ole joe said that, I almost fell out of my chair.
Not to mention that his playing despisitto to a Mexican audience was not racist at all was it?
Whats are clown show stunts for the next election going to be?
I guess we will see.
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@Adrift ikr
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@SW-User
You can look at it that way when you have the leader of the Democrat Party saying that black people who don't vote for them aren't black lol.

No agendas have swapped because the Democrats do nothing to help black Americans.

Are you Black, A Russian, or a Jew or a Jim Crow baby?
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@wildbill83
lol, on what, some inaccurate, flawed, biased source like wikipedia?

I don't need to search it, my family/ancestors lived it; every republican family around here was so poor that no one even knew there was a depression in the 20's until some northerners came around and told them. 90%+ of the south was agrarian, most families were struggling themselves, let alone be able to afford slaves. Plantation owners all had ties/family in the north (i.e. democrats), and were descendants from old world aristocrats with money like the English. Southerners descended from poor blue collar countries (Ireland, Scotland, Germany, Scandinavia, etc.), many of which emigrated to escape plague and famine in Europe.

The north was, and still is in many regards oppressive to the south, as it always has been. Hell, they can't even take responsibility for the civil war they caused, instead blaming a bunch of poor southern farmers...

And still to this day, people have this imaginary belief that the north was some kind of utopian paradise in the mid 1800's, when in reality, abolition caused far more outrage and resentment than it ever did in the south which culminated to a series of riots and violence that nearly destroyed cities like new york.

Yes, I'm very aware of history. I choose the believe the facts/truth, not some twisted fucked up rendition of it just so some yankees could sleep better at night...



; Spoken like an 1861 slaver.
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
oh look, another troll...

shouldn't you be in your cave at this hour? 🤔
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@Diotrephes

Jew

^

What does it matter though?
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@SW-User
What does it matter though?

Well, their objective is to start race wars in all of the White countries, which is why they are flooding them with refugees and illegal immigrants. The expectation is that such conflicts will destroy those countries and then the Jewish cabal will be able to take them over as the biblical fairy tale says. They expect the world to end in about 200 years so they are doing everything possible to make it happen. It's theur fairy tale.

Of course you might be just another Jim Crow baby who wants to impose a rigid apartheid state like before the Civil War.

In any case, based upon some of your comments, you do not come across as a dedicated proponent of fair and equal civil and human rights for all American citizens.

If I'm wrong all you have to do is tell me to stuff it and start posting comments where you at least appear to be for fair and equal civil and human rights for all American citizens.

Choose to do the right thing.
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Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@SW-User
rofl

Choose to smile.
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@carpediem Are you seriously trying to claim that conservative Southern Democrats were leftists?

Do people really think "Democrat" has always meant "left-wing"? When the Democrats were the party of big business and laissez-faire capitalism and the Republicans spawned the Progressive party that stressed big government and social reform? Both parties had liberal and conservative wings throughout most of the 20th century. Conservative Democrats were localized mainly in the South and opposed Civil Rights. Strom Thurmond became a Republican when he realized the Democrats were no longer representing Southern interests. By the 1980s, the parties were more like what they are today, but it took a long time for them to be that way. The idea that they were always perfectly aligned with left and right is absurd and betrays a complete lack of knowledge of American history.
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
@Diotrephes
you do not come across as a dedicated proponent of fair and equal civil and human rights for all American citizens

haven't you watched TV lately? we're not the ones condemning everyone who associates with "Make America Great Again". We're not the ones that think pride in one's own country is racist and divisive...

That's your party, the party of fools...
carpediem · 61-69, M
@SW-User grow up child
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@carpediem It's telling that this is all you guys have to say when confronted with something that literally cannot be true or your entire worldview falls apart. 🥱
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@carpediem I think I just spoke to your alt 😂
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@wildbill83
haven't you watched TV lately? we're not the ones condemning everyone who associates with "Make America Great Again". We're not the ones that think pride in one's own country is racist and divisive...

That's your party, the party of fools...

Can you list ten (10) things that is an American quality or behavior that makes you proud?