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Trump's Desperation and the Obama card

Trump is clearly a desperate rat caught in a trap. So he does what he always does. He lies to people who will believe whatever he says without question.

Trump via Truth Social

“What happened to the 30 million pages of documents taken from the White House to Chicago by Barack Hussein Obama? He refused to give them back! What is going on? This act was strongly at odds with NARA. Will they be breaking into Obama’s ‘mansion’ in Martha’s Vineyard?”

"President "Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified. How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!"

And the quick and concise National Archives response?


“NARA moved approximately 30 million pages of unclassified records to a NARA facility in the Chicago area where they are maintained exclusively by NARA. Additionally, NARA maintains the classified Obama Presidential records in a NARA facility in the Washington, DC, area,” the statement said. “As required by the PRA, former President Obama has no control over where and how NARA stores the Presidential records of his Administration.”

But the cold, hard reality of America today is that millions will believe Trump over NARA. Because EVERYONE is in on the hoax.

How do you fight against that?
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
It's depressing. I like how he keeps including Obama's middle name of Hussein to try to make him sound as foreign as possible and stir up the racist hate in his followers.

Like any dictator want to be, he has successfully eroded his own government and and governmental departments and has his believers believing everything is corrupt except him. He has no regard for the rule of law or the Constitution. He and his followers are the biggest threat to American democracy.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@JimboSaturn Any time someone starts with "What about...", they're only comparing that bad with their own. It's a built-in confession.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@Graylight Precisely! He is so juvenile. I really have no respect for his followers.
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@deadgerbil

Encapsulated perfectly here:

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Graylight · 51-55, F
What happened to the 30 million pages of documents taken from the White House to Chicago?
Tens of thousands (not 30 million, get serious) of Obama's documents were transported to Chicago. But these items were shipped to a federal government facility — which is what's supposed to happen with a president's records. Federal law requires that presidents and their administrations keep a detailed collection of emails, documents, and even gifts from their time in office since all of those things are actually the property of the American people.

In Obama's case, the National Archives took legal ownership of Obama's documents and then began the long process of sorting through the material before the public could request it years later. Some of this material was then turned over to Obama's presidential library, which is the standard legal process.

So, that's what happened. You'd think as President, Trump wouldn't have to have Rules & Procedures 101 read to him.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@Graylight Trump knows nothing about how his own country is run.
@Ynotisay Source link?
Ynotisay · M
@FlowersNButterflies For the NARA statement? Here. On the bottom. 8/12/22
https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2022/nr22-001
deadgerbil · 26-30
So trump lies about his political adversaries' doings and then uses the made up story to excuse his own actions

And the dumb trumpers will believe it 😷
Thanks for shedding light on this NARA issue! A rapid response to Trump's lies is very helpful!!
Ynotisay · M
@ElwoodBlues You nailed it with rapid response. The DOJ allowing some time between the raid and their going on the record might have been the way things were done a while ago but not anymore. The lies need to be snuffed out immediately now. Won't make much of a difference for some of the believers. But it's a good habit to get in to when it comes to Trump.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
How much do you want to bet, some numbnuts parrot will post Trumps argument here as if they found out these "facts" themselves.
Wiseacre · F
THIS TIME HE IS CLEARLY TRAPPED LIKE A WOUNDED ANIMAL
@Wiseacre Like a "dog".
Wiseacre · F
[Haha, he was born in thr year of the dog@FlowersNButterflies]
Piper · 61-69, F
There is no way to fight against that, for those who just "know what they know". It really is disturbing and disheartening.
33M pieces of paper.

500 in a ream, 5000 in a standard box.

That's 6,600 boxes of paper.

A box of paper is 15" x 12" x 10" . That's 1800 cubic inches, just about a cubic foot.

So 6,600 cubic feet of paper boxes.

A dry semi-trailer has a usable volume of about 3,000 cubic feet. So that's two semi's.

A UHaul cargo trailer is about 400 cubic feet, so that extra 600 cubic feet would take two UHaul cargo trailers.

So, Obama had two semi's and two UHaul cargo trailers move 6,600 of federal documents to Chicago?
Ynotisay · M
@CopperCicada No. Obama did nothing. Other than follow the law.
“NARA moved approximately 30 million pages of unclassified records to a NARA facility in the Chicago area where they are maintained exclusively by NARA."
Pretty much starts and ends there.
@Ynotisay Oh wow. There actually were 30M pages. I thought it was made up.

I could see NARA filling up trucks tho...
"Whataboutism"… he is notorious for fighting truth with lies and attempts at misdirection. No matter, he is screwed now, in multiple areas. Republicans are imploding. I am a registered Independent.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Aren't the Obama documents part of his Presidential Library and controlled by the NARA?
Ynotisay · M
@ChipmunkErnie Yes. That's why they called bullshit on Trump so fast.
Helloeveryone · 61-69, F
Which Trump are we talking about the one in the phone or the former president....
Forget the hoax its on You tube
dale74 · M
So what's that say about Obama and everything's bushes fault Or did you forget about that
Helloeveryone · 61-69, F
too bad the hoax made to you tube
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@Ferise1 Bwahahahahahaaaaaa!

 
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