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I might too, although I'm not committing until I'm absolutely sure what the alternatives are.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@Thinkerbell Like I said, I'm waiting and seeing. I liked Kamala better as a Senator then as VP, and Biden, imo, was never destined to be a great POTUS, but he was a superb candidate against Trump, and hasn't yet screwed anything up to make me rethink my decision.

We'll see who's up in 2024, but I'd vote for almost anyone against Trump, maybe even someone like DeSantis, because he's at least more capable of seeing beyond himself.

We'll see how this plays out. Biden took his hat out of the ring once before, and my guess is he may be pushed to do it again. And I really think, for all his faults, he's capable of seeing beyond his own ego in making that decision.

Seems like the Dems are in a state of flux right now, as are, in a different way, the Republicans, while they wait to see how everything plays out.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@MistyCee

[quote]"I liked Kamala better as a Senator then as VP..."[/quote]

Only because while she was still in CA, she blended in with the rest of the fruits and the nuts; it was harder to distinguish her utter ditziness. 🙄

[quote]"...and Biden, imo, was never destined to be a great POTUS..." [/quote]

The understatement of the century.
Biden, the career politician/crook/plagiarist who graduated near the bottom of his class from a second-rate law school, where he was caught cheating even there. 🙄 🙄

[quote]"...but he was a superb candidate against Trump..." [/quote]

...which only shows how dismally thin the Democrats' bench was/is.
One idiot after another. 🙄 🙄 🙄

@Thinkerbell I'm not about to defend the Democrat's bench or their coaching decisions.

If you want to go that route, though, I could.

Sure seems like the Republicans deliberately soiled the integrity of the game and chose talent that could win over the continued semblance of legitimacy and maybe existence of the sport.

Trumpism won in 2016, and suffered a defeat in 2020, and might well win again in 2024.

Thing is, this sport actually matters.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee Biden didn't win. The election was rigged. The US is no longer a functioning representative republic. The 'winner' of the fraudulent election needs to be reminded to go to the bathroom. Sometimes he doesn't bother. Just ask the pope.
@hippyjoe1955 That sort of actually supports my point about the integrity of the game.

Trump argued every call that went against him, and in the end, refused to accept the loss, even to the point of supporting hanging the ref.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@hippyjoe1955

[quote]" Just ask the pope."[/quote]

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee The FACTS are regardless of Trump there is so much evidence of a fraudulent election as to declare the US a post democratic state. If that level of fraud is acceptable then the US needs to turn in its role as leader of free elections. That is not because I wanted Trump to win or Biden to lose or any other such thing. There was massive fraud perpetuated and only the dull and the ignorant refuse to see it.
@hippyjoe1955 I'm not denying the sincerity of your belief, Joe, but I don't share it.
@hippyjoe1955 "Guilty by accusation without proof" If there is so much evidence of fraud then show it. Mike Lindel said he had proof 🤷‍♂️ Rudy Giuliani said he had proof 🤷‍♂️ Trump and over 60 lawsuits had accusations but no substantiated proof. Just because you think there was doesn't prove that there was. We have been down this well-travelled road waaaaay too many times.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@softspokenman There are none so blind as those who will not look.
@hippyjoe1955 That is not proof. 'Wilful blindness' also known as 'deliberate ignorance' is ignoring that there are no facts to prove your accusations.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@softspokenman Willful blindness on your part is your problem not mine.
@hippyjoe1955 'Deflecting' is not proof either.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@softspokenman Maybe you missed the part about me no caring if you get proof or not. Blind people can't see. You are blind. I am not to waste any time trying to show you. Run along son. Your ignorance is boundless
@hippyjoe1955 You have no proof of the accusation that YOU made. 🤣
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@softspokenman Do you have trouble reading what I wrote?
@hippyjoe1955 Bye Joe 👋
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@softspokenman What took you so long? Don't go away now. Five comments ago would have been better. Don't let the door hit you on the butt out.