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Don't buy the BS

The GOP party line this week would like you to believe Hutchinson’s testimony is useless because it’s all hearsay. And that’s right, regarding the two least important and most salacious tidbits. But for the entrée, Hutchinson was a direct party or witness. This is not a trial and not subject to trial rules. The GOP itself opted out. This is a presentation of facts already investigated and decided for the benefit of the American Public because we’re either so stupid or so obstinate we look at the sun and call it the ocean.

*She said Trump was furious with his security officials, and she overheard him saying, “I don’t f- - -ing care that they have weapons. They’re not here to hurt me.”

*She recalled that in December 2020, when the AP published a piece in which Attorney General Bill Barr dismissed Trump’s election-fraud claims, she heard a noise in the Oval Office. She went to investigate and found the valet changing the tablecloth. “There was ketchup dripping down the wall and there was a shattered porcelain plate on the floor,” Hutchinson said. “The valet had articulated that the president was extremely angry at the attorney general’s AP interview and had thrown his lunch against the wall.”

*Trump approved hanging Mike Pence. After the riot was under way, Hutchinson testified that White House counsel Pat Cipollone barreled into Meadows’s office. Cipollone told Meadows they needed to speak to the president, but Meadows at first rebuffed him. “He doesn’t want to do anything about it,” she quoted her boss telling Cipollone. “Mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood will be on your effing hands,” Cipollone shot back. “I’m going down there.”

Meadows and Cipollone then walked a few steps over to the Oval Office dining room, and Hutchinson was in earshot. At the same time, Meadows was fielding a phone call from Republican lawmaker Jim Jordan.
Cipollone continued to press Meadows to get the president to call off his bloodthirsty supporters. “You heard him, Pat, he thinks Mike deserves it,” Hutchinson quoted Meadows telling Cipollone about what the two men just heard from Trump. “He doesn’t think they’re doing anything wrong.”

*On January 7, 2021, Trump put out a video in which he condemned the riot, calling it a “heinous attack.” Hutchinson said Trump didn’t think it was necessary to say anything beyond his two tweets on January 6, but a group of advisers, including Mark Meadows, Jared Kushner, and Ivanka Trump, convinced him to speak in an effort to head off any effort to remove him via the 25th Amendment.

Hutchinson testified that original drafts called the rioters violent and talked about prosecuting them, but Trump struck that language. The president “wanted to put that he wanted to potentially pardon them,” she said. “He didn’t think that they did anything wrong,” she said. “He thought … the person who did something wrong that day was Mike Pence by not standing with him.”

*It wasn’t just Trump who wanted to pardon the January 6 rioters; Hutchinson testified that Mark Meadows was pushing for that language to be included in Trump’s January 7 statement as well, but White House counsel advised against it.
Previous witnesses testified that a number of Trump associates sought pardons for their activities on January 6, including several members of Congress. Hutchinson testified that Rudy Giuliani and Mark Meadows both indicated that they were interested in being pardoned, too.

Not hearsay. Not 2nd hand. Not erasable.
WalksWith · 56-60, F
the trumplicons are very good at gaslighting and their mealy mouthed cultists are too incurious to not follow their marching orders.
monte3 · 70-79, M
@WalksWith I l8ke trumplicons. 😊. It sounds vaguely reptilian.
Moreover, whining about hearsay after opting out of cross,-examination and even an opportunity to object to evidence is really bullshit.
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Precisely.

The GOP's "wizard of Oz-ing" of all these disturbing testimonies--"pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"--is yet another transparent ploy.
Freeranger · M
I certainly don't buy Biden's.....and his nefarious dealings alongside his son. I suspect I'm not alone. Some of us understand shit from Shinola hunny.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Freeranger Apropos of nothing. Feel better?
Freeranger · M
@Graylight I'm going to begin feeling quite fantastic quite frankly, with the mid-terms on the way....so yes, much better. Thank you for asking.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Freeranger Mmm, you guys pretty much just kicked yourself out of those. Better luck at the election.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
Nobody is buying anything these idiots are selling.
@Zonuss Anyone with a brain is hearing with utter dismay the first-hand reports of Republicans, mostly in the room with DJT, some on the phone, or things overheard *at the source*, or statements made *in the moment*/contemporaneously as the utterances of people regarding the conversations that they had just had with the President/others...

But you haven't seen the evidence piling up, I'm sure.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@SomeMichGuy Im pro Democrat. My comment was directed to the people who have their heads in the sand.
@Zonuss Sorry, and great! I'm so used to random ppl demonstrating that they have not paid attention since DJT was inaugurated--other than to parrot nonsense from Hannity, Carlson, and ppl farther afield--that I thought this was another.

My sincere apologies.
Cool opinion, have a nice day. 💐
Graylight · 51-55, F
@checkoutanytime Not opinion. Recorded fact testimony that will exists as long s this country does.
@Graylight im missed the part where Hutchinson was even in the vehicle = hearsay 👨‍⚖️
Graylight · 51-55, F
@checkoutanytime I missed the part where that was important. What I didn't miss were all the parts where she was in the room and a direct eyewitness to conversations that will lead to charges.

 
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