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If Biden ran against Trump right now, who would win? (I'm not asking who you want - I'm asking what you think most voters want)

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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
Just like the last time Trump won most of the votes. The votes Biden got were not legal.
marciamom · F
@hippyjoe1955 I've heard the arguments but you've got to be able to prove that stuff within a reasonable time. When a court finds someone "not guilty," that becomes the truth even if the guy is guilty. No one could prove these fraud claims in court, even to judges appointed by republican presidents. That argument is over.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@marciamom So do you honestly think that a dementia riddled old man that campaigned from his basement and couldn't fill a high school gymnasium got 81 million votes? Seriously?
Imsleepy · 31-35
Dippy never has evidence for his bogus claims. @marciamom
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Imsleepy · 31-35
The info you posted is incorrect, though. @hippyjoe1955
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Imsleepy Prove it. If you cite the MSM I will laugh at you.
Imsleepy · 31-35
The burden of proof is on you. Prove that what you said is true. @hippyjoe1955
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Imsleepy I don't have to prove what I know to be true. If you want to prove me wrong then that is up to you. So you honestly think that a senile old man who campaigned in his basement got 81 million votes..... Say I have some ocean front property in Northern Saskatchewan for sale. Interested?
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@hippyjoe1955 so funny
Imsleepy · 31-35
[quote] I don't have to prove what I know to be true[/quote]
Is that the hill you wish to die on? Surely you see the flaw in such elementary thinking.

Yes, I believe he got 81 million votes and defeated Trump. @hippyjoe1955
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Imsleepy Yawn. So did you see the latest Biden poll numbers? 33% approval. Wow. 20% among independents. WOW WOW! Yeah but trust him he got 81 million votes.
marciamom · F
@hippyjoe1955 "must have" and "couldn't have" are not proofs of things. There have been years to prove these things in court and no one succeeded in doing it. The 2020 election is over. Better luck next time. I remember people telling me "Now that they figured out how to steal an election, no Republican will ever win an election again." But many Republicans won in the 2020 election and many since. Wanting something doesn't make it so.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@marciamom The courts have stated that they are not getting involved. Kind of hard to prove in court when the court won't hear the case. Do try to wake up.
marciamom · F
@hippyjoe1955 That is just false. Here is the lawsuit Trump filed in Michigan, for example. What became of it? Nothing - dismissed by the Plaintiffs because they could not establish anything in it as true.

https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/public-files/press_assets/1.-11-10-20-trump-v.-benson-w.d.-mich.-complaint-final.pdf
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@marciamom That is just the facts. The courts have simply not given fair hearing. Understandable. The courts want to remain above politics. However their refusal to hear the cases does not prove or disprove the legitimacy of the vote count.
marciamom · F
@hippyjoe1955 Identify one case where the court said what are saying. Calling something a fact does not make it a fact. Link a single opinion
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@marciamom So you don't keep track of the vote cheating that went on and you don't follow the court cases and you think I have something to prove. I just proved you are intentionally ignorant.
marciamom · F
@hippyjoe1955 You don't have a single example. This is why they lose all the cases (except those they voluntarily dismissed). "it must have been" is not an argument.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@marciamom If you don't know about it now you are in willful denial. Therefore there is no purpose in your request. You want to be ignorant of facts and have closed your eyes to the facts. You are not about to change you mind. You are a partizan and not open to new ideas.
marciamom · F
@hippyjoe1955 You just have talking points. If you want to have an actual discussion about this with another person, you will need to look something up and be able to back up something you are saying. It is noteworthy that in these comments, people from each side have called me a partisan to the other. That is an argument by someone with nothing to say
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@marciamom If you are interested go do some investigating. If not go away. I don't care about your willful ignorance or trying to refute your foolishness. Have a nice oblivious life in the gulag.
marciamom · F
@hippyjoe1955 It is my post and my thread - you are the one that will have to go away. I am sorry you are hurt by me pointing out that your faith system has no basis. Asking others to do your research and saying that they are unwilling to investigate just means you have nothing to say.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@marciamom All you need to do is shut off SW and find a bit of information. Sadly you remain utterly ignorant of current events. Sad that you are proud of your ignorance and keep posting more of it on SW.
marciamom · F
@hippyjoe1955 If you are so enlightened, share a link. If you don't have one, maybe you should do some research. If it comes up empty, you are welcome to delete your dozen ignorant comments.