Could've used those math textbooks

1. Should Roe v. Wade be overturned this summer, 13 states are set up with "trigger laws" that will outlaw abortion at the state level immediately. At least another 10 will have similar or same on the books shortly after.

2. Today, a 59% majority of U.S. adults say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, while 39% think abortion should be illegal in all or most cases (Pew Research Center survey, conducted April 5 to 11).

3. Written in 1787, ratified in 1788, and in operation since 1789, the United States Constitution is the world’s longest surviving written charter of government. Its first three words – “We The People” – affirm that the government of the United States exists to serve its citizens. The supremacy of the people through their elected representatives is recognized in Article I, which creates a Congress consisting of a Senate and a House of Representatives (United States Senate).
https://www.senate.gov/civics/constitution_item/constitution.htm

1+1+1 isn't equaling 3 and until it does, we live in a nation that controls [i]us[/i]. If you don't like the idea of your elected state representatives assuming they can read your mind, text/write/call/contact their office and remind them about the "serve" part.

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REMsleep · 41-45, F

There are a few concepts missing from your writtings here.
1. We must remember that although our elected representatives exsist to serve " the people" if those people don't engage enough that the system won't work. Democracy only works as hard as its citizens do.
2. I believe that the Roe V Wade decision being overturned isin't really about abortion but is about state's rights. In other words whether or not on the national level the government has the right to tell each state what to do regarding this matter. Same as with the death penalty. This idea upholds the Constitution.
3. Laws and our understanding ebb and flow. The pendulum swings one way too hard sometimes but we all work together as a society to get it right.

Graylight · 51-55, F

@REMsleep 1. Already stated.
2. RvW isn't about state's rights at all. It's about power through sexism; that's what it's always been about and it's the boulder keeping the cave of moral legislation contained.
3. The pendulum continues and we will get it right again. But in the past, that's ebb and flow has taken centuries. America [i]is [/i]the Great Experiment; there was never any guarantee we'd last forever.

bijouxbroussard · F

@REMsleep [b][b]Your[/b][/b] state representatives want to be able to prevent women who live there from leaving the state to get abortions in states where there are no restrictions. That takes it out of the realm of a "states’ right” issue and moves seriously into the idea controlling women. I don’t even see how it would be enforceable.

[b][quote] Texas already bans abortions at six weeks, bypassing Roe by allowing private residents, not the state, to sue those who aid and abet anyone in receiving the procedure. But it also has a 'trigger law' on the books that would make performing an abortion a felony within 30 days if Roe was overturned.

Unlike the current law which is civilly enforced, the trigger law comes with traditional criminal penalties. Pregnant women would still be exempt from charges, but doctors could face up to life in prison.

Leaders and members of the state legislature say they are refocusing their attention on investing in foster care and adoption services and strengthening the social safety net for mothers and children.

But some of the more conservative members have begun to discuss ways to make sure Texans aren't just traveling to another state to have the procedure.

'I think I can speak for myself and other colleagues that align with my policy beliefs — we'll continue to do our best to make abortion not just outlawed, but unthinkable,' said Rep. Briscoe Cain, R-Deer Park, a member of the far-right Freedom Caucus, according to the Texas Tribune.

Cain said he is interested in going after abortion funds that raise money to help pregnant women with travel costs to get the procedure in another state.

In March, he sent cease-and-desist letters to such organizations based on a pre-Roe statute that made it a crime to 'furnish the means for procuring an abortion.' Roe made these abortion statutes unconstitutional.
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REMsleep · 41-45, F

@bijouxbroussard We wont see eye to eye on this one. I know that some ultra conservative lawmakers here are trying to bend the law however they can to prevent abortion. I didn't know those particular details,but thats not what's happening at the Supreme Court level. The Supreme Court is above the fray and no matter how it got pushed up the chain the fact is states rights are why the Supreme Court would have to make a change if thats what they decide.

And the Texas Reps seem to be trying to stop groups from funding women to leave specifically for an abortion, thats not stopping them from going on their own.
For those of us who believe abortion is equal to killing a newborn child they will do anything to stop it.
But even though I am conservative on this subject, I do believe that medical abortions should be allowed past 7 weeks. Currently this is illegal here.

Graylight · 51-55, F

@REMsleep [quote]For those of us who believe abortion is equal to killing a newborn child they will do anything to stop it.[/quote]

[b]There is no evidence for this and cannot be legislated as a viable scientific opinion.[/b]
I appreciate your perspective on this issue, but as much as I've been taught in my life to hold the Scotus as incorruptible, this simply isn't the case anymore. True, they never even conceive many inane arguments and points that fuel a site like this, but they are clearly influenced to the point of near abuse by both parties. Politics and the tone of the country are changing, and the Scouts isn't infallible.

bijouxbroussard · F

@REMsleep SCOTUS went up for grabs when the GOP deliberately stalled the process to prevent Obama from appointing a moderate Justice when Scalia passed and [b]then[/b] rushed to replace RBG with a conservative. The Supreme Court only works when all voices are represented. The GOP circumvented that tradition for their own agenda.