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What next for Ukraine?

Here's my fear for both Ukraine and us in the West. This Sunday on the tv the Ukrainian ambassador to the US viewed the opinion that the war will last till the last Russian soldier has gone not only from the newly gained territory but also the whole of Donbas and Crimea. That means that they're now not only going to fight a war that started way back in 2014 but also that they'll keep the West under a blanket of constant moral chantage. They are the democracy that needs to be saved, as the grand damsel in a fairytale. However, lets not go into that rabbit hole. Realpolitik has been in existence since Cardinal Richelieu supported the protestant side in the Thirty Years War in order to weaken the Habsburg monarchs. Whatever the detail of the Israeli policy towards Ukraine is today, it will for sure be in the interest of the country first. Does one actually need to get the Russian Army reduced to almost nothing in the long run, but rather have the conflict settled with the less death possible and as soon as possible? Remember, the summer months of July and August will favour the Russian armoured columns the most, and furthermore, they consider the battlefield tactical nuclear strike as mere the another artillery option. Obviously Ukraine won't defeat Russia on their own. Will their next step not be trying to directly involve the West in the war? That will mean that the war will only end by either regime change in Moskow, or by the West really taking the crazed bet that the Russians won't use the nuclear option whilst they bomb their army out of Ukraine.
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walabby · M
The war can end very easily. Putin just needs to declare "the objectives have been met", and go home.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@walabby ... and then russia can start paying reparations 😀
walabby · M
@newjaninev2 Absolutely!
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@newjaninev2 Ukraine should demand at least $2 Trillion.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Diotrephes Selling putin’s $700,000,000 super yacht will be a good start.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@newjaninev2 Are you buying? The yearly operating costs are probably about $300,000,000.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Diotrephes Well, I assume that, like its current owner, I’ll be able to extort the costs from the russian people.

After all, they’re now well-supplied with stolen washing machines and looted iPads 😀
val70 · 51-55
@walabby As you might have noticed by the reactions some people don't want the war to end nor the conflict to be settled. Don't take it to heart now!
walabby · M
@val70 They don't want the war ended by Putin being successful with his murderous aggression. They want the conflict settled and the war ended by Putin taking his toy soldiers and going home.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@val70 The barbarians' ‘special military operation’. will end when the last barbarian war-criminal steps off Ukrainian soil, or is under it.

Иди на хуй, россия

Слава Україні!

🇺🇦 🌻 🇺🇦
helenS · 36-40, F
@val70
some people don't want the war to end
Mr. Putin, for example, wants the war to end as soon as possible.
walabby · M
@helenS ..... with him the victor. Well, that hasn't worked, so far, and hopefully won't ever!