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What next for Ukraine?

Here's my fear for both Ukraine and us in the West. This Sunday on the tv the Ukrainian ambassador to the US viewed the opinion that the war will last till the last Russian soldier has gone not only from the newly gained territory but also the whole of Donbas and Crimea. That means that they're now not only going to fight a war that started way back in 2014 but also that they'll keep the West under a blanket of constant moral chantage. They are the democracy that needs to be saved, as the grand damsel in a fairytale. However, lets not go into that rabbit hole. Realpolitik has been in existence since Cardinal Richelieu supported the protestant side in the Thirty Years War in order to weaken the Habsburg monarchs. Whatever the detail of the Israeli policy towards Ukraine is today, it will for sure be in the interest of the country first. Does one actually need to get the Russian Army reduced to almost nothing in the long run, but rather have the conflict settled with the less death possible and as soon as possible? Remember, the summer months of July and August will favour the Russian armoured columns the most, and furthermore, they consider the battlefield tactical nuclear strike as mere the another artillery option. Obviously Ukraine won't defeat Russia on their own. Will their next step not be trying to directly involve the West in the war? That will mean that the war will only end by either regime change in Moskow, or by the West really taking the crazed bet that the Russians won't use the nuclear option whilst they bomb their army out of Ukraine.
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beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
Russia's armored divisions have taken substantial losses and tanks don't do that well in urban combat anyway.

Hopefully, Russian losses will continue until which point an internally-produced regime change occurs.
helenS · 36-40, F
@beckyromero Russia has no tactics, and no strategy, and they don't need one. They just kill and torture and burn cities, like they did in Syria and elsewhere. They will keep doing that for a year, or ten years, if necessary. 100,000 dead Russian soldiers will not stop Russia - they will send another 100,000.
It is of the utmost importance for the West to completely destroy the Russian armed forces, or the horrors won't stop. 😐
val70 · 51-55
@helenS During the summer months the possiblity of encirclement of Ukrainian brigades on the plains of the East will become critical. That's why the West is actually now training Ukrainian soldiers on the 155mm howitzers and such. There will be no repeat of holding the columns back in the urban areas next. The Russian army will continue to shell those last whilst trying to cut off the supply lines for the Ukrainian army in the East. The reducement of the Ukrainian army will be also a definite fact then, and they have less of everything from the start already.
helenS · 36-40, F
@val70 If Ukraine loses the war, there will be many promising candidates for the next one. 😐
val70 · 51-55
@helenS Loses the war? They've already won the major part of it. What should be done is what Churchill said in the past also: more jaw-jaw besides the war-war. Now is the time for diplomacy.
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
@val70 There can be no diplomacy with Russia. It is too far beyond that point.
val70 · 51-55
@Tastyfrzz You weren't alive for the Srebrenica massacre and its aftermath then. How was life on Mars been?