Does anyone have a regret for voting for Biden?

@RosaMarie would you as a person ever trust a democrat again, if you promised to give up your weapons if they protected you?

@Bear513 That question is irrelevant because I would not give up my weapons. That being said, please read the actual treaty. It promised shared defense against nuclear attack. It was to give up nuclear weapons. So far, Ukraine hasn't been attacked with Nuclear weapons.

Please don't misunderstand me. I think that the leaders in Europe and NA are a bunch of gutless cowards. You can find more than a few comments of mine here taking about Chamberland in 39, and how the EU had forgotten how well that worked.

The use of that particular treaty is a bad argument because it doesn't actually say what you imply. It's not a mutual defense pact. It is very clear and very much limited to nuclear defense. I like your post and your thinking. I'm trying to help strengthen your case by pointing out a possible weak spot that could be argued by someone who isn't in agreement with you on this.

@RosaMarie woa the whole point is having mutual self destruction

Bill promised the USA would protect the Ukraine

@Bear513 Read the treaty, that's not what was promised.