Which one is 'Presidential'?

Don't worry... Just a matter of time.

[c=#4C0073]Obama has always written his speeches [/c]

@VioletRayne: does he? Wasn't aware of that. But boy is he an orator. Love listening to him.

@BigAsset: You know, the conservative racists can't give him any credit.

@VioletRayne: John F Kennedy didn't even write his own speeches and he was the greatest orator of them all, but we don't require that our politicians be great writers, only effective communicators. So you expect me to believe that Obama writes his own speeches. He lied about health care and he's lying about that too.

@bijouxbroussard: he has been an amazing president. I admire him greatly.

@bijouxbroussard: Uh oh, I think we've been down this road before.... lol...😜

@calicuz: [c=#4C0073]Most presidents contribute to the construction of their speeches. So, no I don't think he lied about writing his speeches. He has even acknowledged the few that weren't his like the jokes one. He didn't lie about Obamacare he couldn't get it passed the way he wanted through the congress that was hellbent on stopping him. So, he did what he could. [/c]

@VioletRayne: He lied about health care because he had everyone believing, especially the voters, the it was all going to be free. There were those of us, on the right, who knew there was no way it was going to be free, and that the tax payers were going to end up paying for it, but the others on the left wouldn't listen.

@calicuz: No, those of you on the right interfered with it and the insurance companies took advantage. Obama didn't lie, he just didn't count on the right's being willing to screw the American people over by sabotaging it. After all, it was based on Romney's plan, and the [b]only[/b] reason you guys didn't support it was when Obama proposed it. If it had been up to those of us on the left, he would've just extended Medicare to a broader base---[i]actual[/i] socialized healthcare, like in European countries. ACA was a compromise.

@calicuz: [c=#4C0073]If it had been passed they way he wanted it would have been. In stead he had to mandate it through executive order which meant he had to change it in order to get what he could inacted.[/c]

@bijouxbroussard: This is the last I will say on the topic. Obama Care was never about health care for anybody, it was about increasing the health insurance companies profits. It was nothing more than a "clever" (if you call that clever) way to get health car insurance companies federal subsidies. The industry wasn't bankrupt, like the auto industry, so there was no excuse for a "bail out" of the health insurance industry. Obama Care was always about the fat cats on Wall Street increasing their profits through federal funds. They knew what they were doing from the start. Can someone tell me why Obama never mentioned in his campaign that people would have to pay for for the Affordable Health Care Act?

@calicuz: The premise was that instead of some people paying for everyone's healthcare (including for the uninsured, previously waiting until they were sick and going to ERs, who couldn't turn them away---higher hospital costs for those of us [b]with[/b] insurance), everyone would be covered and each pay an amount. Like I said, it was based on Romney's plan as Governor of Massachusetts. It shouldn't have been a problem for the right, who always complain about having to pay for the low-income, and who support big business. What's funny is that after Trump made such a big deal about "dismantling Obamacare", now he's saying he's going to keep parts of it---like extending children's coverage until age 26 and not excluding people for pre-existing conditions, two points that have been a godsend for many people. Is that "bait and switch" to those of you who voted for him ?

@bijouxbroussard: No, it's not a bait and switch. We all know, Dem, Rep and any other party, know that there is a system in place on Capital Hill. Trump can make all the promises he wants to make on the campaign trail, but he is going to have to actually negotiate once he takes office. Take "The Wall" for example, we know that congress will never approve the funding to build a wall, so yes, there were the racists of this country and the ya hoo's out in the sticks who believed a wall could be built, but those of us who actually understand politics knew that this wall was never going to be built. It's not going to be a flip flop when he never builds the wall, but he will find that there are far greater problems internally in this country than a few immigrants coming across the boarder to pick fruits and vegetables. He's already said he is going to have visas looked into and oust those who have abused the visa system. Basically they just don't go home when their visa runs out. Trump is already learning how to be a leader of a country which is far from being a leader of a company. They both require leadership skills, just not the identical leadership skills.

@calicuz: [c=#4C0073]hypocrisy. Trump not doing what he said is the natural order of politics. Obama trying and being thwarted is outright lying?[/c]

@calicuz: Sooo...let me get this straight...when Obama had to negotiate with the obstructionists determine to fight every effort made, he [b]lied[/b]. But Trump is just "learning how to be a leader" ? You right wingers crack me up, you don't even recognize the double standards you use !

@VioletRayne: Thank you, thank you !!

@bijouxbroussard: @VioletRayne: It's not a double standard. Obama is a professional politician, Trump is a business man. Trump actually believed he could build a wall, he didn't think about needing congressional approval. Obama knew that The Affordable Health Care Act was going to cost the Tax Payers money, yet he never mentioned that in his campaign. When you know the truth and say nothing to mislead the voters you are a liar. When you say something on the campaign trail, believing that is what you are going to do in office and when you get to office you realize it can't be done, then you are not lying you are just learning the hard way how the system works.

@calicuz: hypocrisy. I'm used to it from the right, though.

@bijouxbroussard: And we're used to the left lying. 😉

@calicuz: The man isn't stupid. He's a professional con artist. He knew what he was doing. Just like he's toeing the line and allowing his family to use the office to grow his business😂😂😂😂Y'all are funny.

@calicuz: You're quick to call someone a liar, unless they're from the right---then you'll give them a pass. [b]Hypocrisy.[/b]

@bijouxbroussard: Usually the left resort to name calling, but not you, and you have my utmost respect.

@VioletRayne: And just how is he using his office to grow his business?

@calicuz: [c=#4C0073]Most people who owns a business and gain office put it in another's hands in order to separate the business and themselves. He's giving it to his children. That is not separation when his children are attending states meetings and taking part in his cabinet. Dignitaries have already expressed that they felt the need to book rooms at his hotel in order to not offend the orange one [/c]