Woke ASU Students Issue ‘List of Demands;’ Plan Rally Demanding Kyle Rittenhouse Be Expelled From School

@SatanBurger He neither murdered anyone,nor is he a vigilante.

Murder is the [i]unlawful[/i] taking of a life. Self defense is lawful.

Vigilantes take the law into their own hands and actively seek those violating the law. His attackers came to him, he didn't seek them out.

@PrivateHell A bunch of protesters who weren't even involved thought he was an active shooter, which wouldn't have even happened if he had gone in the first place. He did take the law into his own hands because he wanted to go defend businesses, which is dealing with law, which he took into his own hands. A business person wanted his business protected so he loaded up a gun to go sit there ready to shoot people.

But again this isn't the point, loads of religious universities would love him, he should finish somewhere else.

@SatanBurger it is the point, because the facts, along with the language are being twisted and distorted to portray this young man as something he isn't, and emotionally manipulate people into believing lies concerning their own rights and freedoms.

The simple truths may be inconvenient, but shouldn't be overlooked. He had more right there (as someone who works in the city, volunteers there regularly, and has a father and other family there) than most of the men who attacked him. The pedophile he killed was from Pima Arizona.

Kyle volunteered to watch over the car lot and the owner agreed since two others burned the night before, and the police were ordered to stand down. Plus, isn't rioting taking the law into your own hands?

None of the men would have been shot or killed, if they had not attacked him, beat him with a skateboard, or pulled a gun on him first.

Chances are, if Kyle was black and all else was the same, no one would have an issue with him being not guilty. And people would damned sure be throwing a fit over them trying to kick him out of the school. Why she he be forced to go elsewhere, when the admins clearly had no problem with it until some students got butthurt. Why can't they just go elsewhere?

@PrivateHell The protesters clearly stated they thought he was an active shooter, the ones that weren't even chasing him. I actually don't care if he volunteers or what extra curriculars he does in his private life, he can be a nice little church boy for all I'm concerned.

The facts are that he chose to load a gun and chose to go down there, two facts that make it possible to kill someone yes?

@SatanBurger of course they thought he was an active shooter! He had to shoot to defend himself from being attacked by 5 grown men. One of which pulled a gun on him first and admitted it in court. The bystanders heard shots, saw he had a rifle and Bob's your uncle. Not hard to see where that was going.

The video clearly shows he was attacked unprovoked. He did nothing to them even after the first few blows were landed.

You were the one who (like so many others) asserted that he didn't belong there. I clearly established he had more right there than a good many others that night, including his attackers.

Yes, he had a gun for protection (which he clearly needed). But he obviously was not the only one that had one.

The only fact that truly matters in the case now is simple and common sense. Don't be a dumbass and try to jump on and hurt someone with a gun.

@PrivateHell He didn't have a gun for protection, he wanted to protect businesses and loaded a gun to go protect it. Why else would you load a gun and then go put yourself in the middle of that? Sure. The facts matter, that's why you ignore the fact of him WANTING to protect businesses with a loaded gun. That's not his job for an untrained 17 year old.

@PrivateHell Yeah he had a gun for protection, at protest turned riot he willfully went to. Sure thing.

@SatanBurger it was his job if the owner agreed upon it and he was there per owner approval.

The thing you are purposefully ignoring here is it doesn't matter if he had a loaded gun or not (which a judge already ruled was legal and within the law). The other men had no right or legal permission to assault him and threaten his life.

I don't give a damn if I am standing on a street corner with 6 rifles strapped around my shoulder. You have every right to ask me about them, or call the police, or leave the area. But you do not have the right to point a gun at me, beat me with a skateboard, or punch and kick me to the ground, unless i am directly pointing my weapon at you or others. Kyle was not, and did not until attacked as testified to and shown in the videos.

@SatanBurger and what of the guy that pointed a loaded pistol at him? Oh wait, he was there to riot and destroy property that didn't belong to him, so that makes it okay. Even though he pointed a weapon without being threatened.

@PrivateHell Actually that guy said he thought Kyle was an active shooter after he turned around and saw Kyle shoot someone. Thought you believed in self defense 😏

@SatanBurger i do. Which is why Kyle shot each of the three men. And the guy with the gun testified he approached Kyle, yet Rittenhouse never pointed his own weapon at him until he had drawn his first.

But here's what I am wondering... say you were Kyle in the exact same position. You have tried to get away, you've been attacked by 5 men, beaten with hand, feet and a skateboard, and had a gun drawn on you. Are you trying to tell me you would have just let these men kill you? Especially in an environment where businesses are burning, and you have already rendered aid to people that have been severely beaten? You wouldn't fight back?

@PrivateHell Hell no. I wouldn't defend a business I have no idea who it was, I'm not stupid. Actually he got attacked after he showed up with a gun, we still don't know what was privately said now do we.

@SatanBurger i didn't ask you about whether you would protect a business, or whether you would be in that situation or not. I asked what you would do if you [i]were[/i] in that situation. If you were being harassed and attacked by five guys, two of which were armed (skateboard and gun). If they were knocking you down, kicking and beating you. It doesn't matter why you were there to begin with, you did nothing to provoke them. Would you defend your own life?

@PrivateHell I don't know if he didn't provoke them because there's only camera from strangers, I don't know about any interactions previously.

@SatanBurger this is where i tend to also believe the testimony, (even from the guy who pointed the gun at him). When asked, the witness stated he believed but didn't know for certain Rittenhouse was an active shooter. Then, upon being questioned, he admitted that Kyle did not point his gun in a threatening way toward anyone until he was attacked. Even when the witness himself pointed his gun at Kyle, but couldn't shoot.

Isn't it strange that with all those people watching, Rittenhouse only pointed his weapon and fired at the people who on camera, struck him first? He is never seen, nor was it ever testified to that Rittenhouse threatened or shot at anyone else. Only the ones who directly assaulted him.

Then you have all the media's deliberate and blatant lies about both Kyle and what happened that night (inspite of evidence proving they lied).

I was once beaten by 4 guys with ball bats to the point of being in a coma for 3 days. I will tell you right now, if 5 guys jumped me the way they did him, and i was armed, there would have been more than 3 people shot.

@SatanBurger Then you should find out the whole story before you speak! Rosenbaum threatened to kill him , and others, before he started chasing him!

@fanuc2013 Kyle went with a loaded gun to a highly charged event about police brutality. Not to mention that no one was authorized to "guard" buildings, the families didn't authorize anyone to guard their stores. The only reason those facts aren't considered in the self defense case was because self defense laws only typically concern themselves with in the moment acts of only a few seconds. This isn't my argument, my argument is that texts from Kyle showed that he was more than willing to go there with a loaded gun to put himself in that position, period.

Also, people did think Kyle was an active shooter so obviously stuff was going on before, not just what happened with Rosenbaum.

[b]https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/live-trials-current/kyle-rittenhouse/manager-of-car-lot-kyle-rittenhouse-took-it-upon-himself-to-protect-says-no-one-was-authorized-to-guard-business-on-night-of-shooting/[/b]

@SatanBurger Despite your opinions, Kyle was acquitted.
So, quit your whining, Nancy!

@SatanBurger Wrong! Everyone has the right to protect their property, and he was asked by the owner of the property to be there as a deterrent. Maybe not the smartest thing to do, but perfectly legal. Just like the protesters have the legal right to peacefully assemble, but NOT to destroy private property and threaten peoples'lives!

@fanuc2013 Okay maybe you just didn't see my link but no, the property owners didn't ask no AK carrying 17 year old to "guard" property.

@SatanBurger first of all, it was an AR , NOT an AK, And if you watched tv at all Kyke said he was asked to fo it.

@SatanBurger Regardless if he was asked or not, he was still defending himself. What would you have done? And don't cop out and say, " I wouldn't have been there in the first place". If you would have been on the ground, already struck and kicked, trying to make it to the police line, and you feared for your life, you would not have defended yourself?

@fanuc2013 I can tell you what I've told every right leaner thus far, I wouldn't go LARP as a vigilante in the middle of the city when I could have stayed at home and played games as a 17 year old kid so I wouldn't be in that situation in the first place.

Self defense is when you're minding your own business or protecting those you love and it happens in the heat of the moment. [b]Not planned out[/b] like Kyle did when he loaded his gun knowing it was tense with emotions from police brutality over there and the political climate, choosing to align oneself with far right militias like proud boys who he obviously admired. He was seen partying with them, he obviously has a past of watching that kind of stuff and wanting to be like those adults when he grows up. They're all over the media.

If I had to self defend myself, I wouldn't have planned to self defend myself in the first place. That's easily a big difference.

The ONLY reason Kyle got off was because self defense only concerns itself with a few seconds, it doesn't concern itself with things like Kyle willfully placed himself in that situation in the first place knowing it was tense. That's the ONLY reason he got off, understand that.

@SatanBurger [quote]If I had to self defend myself, I wouldn't have planned to self defend myself in the first place[/quote]

They have a name for people like that - VICTIM.

@SatanBurger no one was murdered. Are you reading the same case as the rest of us?