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VAX OR STARVE: German State Allows Grocery Stores to Ban Unvaccinated

In Hesse Germany all retailers including grocery stores can now decide whether they want to allow the unvaccinated in their stores.

Hesse includes Frankfurt, the second-largest metropolitan region in Germany.

So they’re going to kill people who won’t get the COVID vax?
How does this make sense?

[i]OK, lefties - let's see you try to justify starving citizens![/i]
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[big]OOOOPS!![/big] Budwick says: [quote]In Hesse Germany all retailers including grocery stores can now decide whether they want to allow the unvaccinated in their stores.[/quote]
Seems Bullwick [i]completely misrepresented[/i] the article!!!

[quote]The Hesse Trade Association said the 2G rule gives retailers in the so-called “non-food sector” the opportunity to bring in more normality.
“The ruling leaves retailers the choice of whether they want to apply a 2G regulation or not,” said the German Trade Association (Handelsverband Deutschland, HDE).[/quote]
Somehow, Buddy missed that “non-food sector” description, and claimed the opposite!! Did the article only say that once? [b]No[/b] it said it [b]again!![/b]

[quote]From the trade association’s point of view, the 2G option should be allowed for some retailers, but not for others.
“The easiest place to implement the regulation is certainly at retailers with low frequency and a high level of personal support, such as jewellers or bridal fashion shops,” said Genth. He said in these settings it is fairly easy to check vaccination or recovery certificates.
Essential shops like supermarkets and petrol stations, for instance, should never have entry restrictions.[/quote]

Wow, @Budwick, way to misrepresent the source behind the paywall! I think you owe us all an apology!!
Budwick · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues [quote]In Hesse Germany all retailers including grocery stores can now decide whether they want to allow the unvaccinated in their stores.[/quote]

It is Elmwood lying - Marxist!
SW-User
@ElwoodBlues I've already pointed this out to him. He's ignored it :)
SW-User
@Budwick YOU LOSE!!!🤣
Budwick · 70-79, M
@SW-User @Budwick You two are pathetic lying Marxist losers.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Budwick You are angry because you are embarrassed.

Proof perhaps that you are capable of some shame!
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues Good work. I wonder if all the people who hearted this will apologise.

Or maybe Budwick will apologise for spreading false info and misinforming people.

Doubtful...
@Budwick The full text of the link was supplied by @RobinPhoenix down below. In light of your state of denial, I'll cut and paste it for you in full. Feel free to keep denying what's in front of your nose.

[quote]Several German states are allowing businesses like restaurants and bars to choose to exclude the unvaccinated. But a Hesse court recently ruled in favour of a shop introducing this 2G option. What does it mean for the future?

So far eight federal states have allowed businesses and event organisers to adopt the so-called 2G option – that is to allow entry only to the vaccinated (geimpft) and people who’ve recovered from Covid-19 (genesen) – and not unvaccinated people who’ve tested (getestet) negatively for Covid.
Across these states – Hamburg, Hesse, Saxony-Anhalt, Berlin, Brandenburg, Saxony, Lower Saxony and Baden-Württemberg – the 2G option can only apply to places like restaurants, cinemas, bars, gyms, brothels and events, but not retailers.
Under state regulations, retailers have to stick to the 3G rule, which also allows unvaccinated people to enter with a negative test.
But a ruling last week by a court in Frankfurt is raising the possibility of non-essential retailers allowing entry to vaccinated and recovered people only, reported German dailyWelt.
READ MORE:Barring the unvaccinated from public places in Germany ‘would cost less than a lockdown’
The judges issued a temporary injunction to allow a retailer for barbecues and other grilling accessories to only let customers into her shop who have been vaccinated or have recovered from Covid-19 (the 2G option).
In justification, the court wrote on Thursday that it had “considerable legal reservations about the exclusion of sales outlets and similar establishments from the so-called 2G rule”.
Customers with only a negative test result can now be barred by the trader from entering her shop. With 2G there is no longer a mask requirement or distance rules for staff and customers, and there are no capacity restrictions.
A bar/restaurant in Braunschweig says entry to indoor dining is only for vaccinated or recovered people (2G). Photo: picture alliance/dpa | Julian Stratenschulte
The ruling comes despite the fact that the Hesse Covid Protection regulations explicitly exclude the 2G option for the retail trade.
The unequal treatment of the retail trade compared to other businesses and events that are allowed to exclude the unvaccinated is not sufficiently justified, the court said. The Hesse Covid Protection Ordinance does not match up with the principle of equality under Article Three of the Basic Law, the court said.
And without the relevant factual reasons, it isn’t clear why the retail trade should be excluded from also being allowed to use the 2G model.
The state has 14 days to appeal the decision.
READ ALSO:What can the ‘super-spreader’ 2G event tell us about vaccine-only rules?
Entrepreneurial freedom
The retailer in Gründau (Main-Kinzig district) had asked the court to rule that her shop should have the 2G option as part of entrepreneurial freedom and that she be allowed to adopt the restriction “voluntarily”.
Trade experts welcomed the court’s decision.
The Hesse Trade Association said the 2G rule gives retailers in the so-called “non-food sector” the opportunity to bring in more normality.
“The ruling leaves retailers the choice of whether they want to apply a 2G regulation or not,” said the German Trade Association (Handelsverband Deutschland, HDE).

However, industry representatives do not want this to be enforced nationwide – because they say it should be about choice.
“It is important that such regulations do not become a legal obligation for retailers,” HDE CEO Stefan Genth told Welt.
From the trade association’s point of view, the 2G option should be allowed for some retailers, but not for others.
“The easiest place to implement the regulation is certainly at retailers with low frequency and a high level of personal support, such as jewellers or bridal fashion shops,” said Genth. He said in these settings it is fairly easy to check vaccination or recovery certificates.
Essential shops like supermarkets and petrol stations, for instance, should never have entry restrictions.
“Checking vaccination passports and tests would certainly lead to long queues in front of shops in the food, clothing or furniture sectors,” he said. “But that is also to be avoided at all costs for pandemic reasons.”
Could 2G lead to conflict?
The association of medium-sized businesses ZGV (Der Mittelstandsverbund) says allowing 2G in shops could split society and make it risky for retail owners.
“Entry control can lead to conflicts with people who are turned away,” said chief executive Ludwig Veltmann, whose organisation represents the interests of around 230,000 medium-sized companies with around 2.5 million employees.
“This is not only an image issue, but a tangible burden and even physical danger for the employees at the entrance – or even for the owner,” said Veltmann, referring to the Idar-Oberstein case, where a cashier in a petrol station was recently shot dead by a customer who was angry about being asked to wear a Covid mask.
READ ALSO:Germany in shock after cashier shot dead in Covid mask row
Veltmann says 2G also excludes customers from countries whose vaccinations are not recognised in Germany. “In locations with an international audience, this can be detrimental to business and lead to resentment,” he said.
The HDE also fears boycotts. “In the end, the voluntary implementation of 2G or 3G in retail is always a personal and business decision of the companies,” said Genth. “In most cases, of course, there is a risk that fewer customers will come as a result.”
As other regions in Germany are considering the 2G option, states – as well as shop owners – will be watching this Hesse ruling closely.[/quote]
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Burnley123 Nope - My post is dead nuts on target. You and your fooling pals look pretty stupid. Sorry, there's nothing I can do to help you there.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues I'm not replying on the other thread Budjack.

Read this. 👆
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Burnley123 [quote]I'm init replying on the other thread Budjack.[/quote]

Are you wearing a gag?
Have you been kidnapped?
@Budwick It takes greatness of character and honest self-reflection to apologize and admit you were wrong, especially when you misrepresented an entire nation.... Unfortunately, you seem to have neither one nor the other.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@RobinPhoenix [quote]It takes greatness of character and honest self-reflection to apologize and admit you were wrong,[/quote]

Good luck mustering up the courage to admit how wrong you have been.
I gotta be honest though, don't expect a parade from me.
I knew you were wrong all along.

And Germany is poorly representing itself - it didn't need any help from me.
@Budwick Sorry, but what you are showing here is comedy at its best. Thanks for the good laugh.... I just needed that. (Y) 🤣
@RobinPhoenix Poor Bullwick got hoodwinked by some right-wing monger of fear & outrage. He never followed the link, never checked his source, just followed thru spreading the lie, and now he's caught with his pants down.

[quote]@Budwick It takes greatness of character and honest self-reflection to apologize and admit you were wrong, especially when you misrepresented an entire nation.[/quote] Exactly - a [i]real[/i] man would stand up and admit he made a mistake. This is a test of moral strength, and Bullwick just flunked! [b]SAD!!![/b]
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Budwick You can say anything you like under the sun. All I need to say is: read the article.
Carla · 61-69, F
Budwick likely still hasnt read the entire piece,@ElwoodBlues.
He is famous for picking what he believes to be a sensational headline. National Enquirer material...
SW-User
@Budwick loooooooser! 🤣
monte3 · 70-79, M
@Budwick so even when presented with the actual article that Gateway Pundit probably misrepresented you are sticking to “my post is complete correct” ? I hate to pile on but….

No one in Germany is starving to death just because they are too irresponsible to get vaccinated.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@SW-User poor, POOR little Shrimpic.
All his little Marxist plans are tanking, just like Joe Biden
It's nice all your Marxist pals are here to watch you fail though.
monte3 · 70-79, M
@Budwick how desperate are you to change the subject? 😊. Be
Irving in reality is pretty much the opposite of Marxist imho….
SW-User
@Budwick yaaaay! I KNEW we’d get to the real point sooner or later! Underneath all the crap you posted about people starving to death, this is essentially about the fact that TRUMP LOST TO BIDEN!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂
Budwick · 70-79, M
@SW-User Shrimp - are you playing with yourself again?
@Budwick You're so desperate to change the subject away from the fact that you didn't vet your source and ended up posting lies. C'mon dude, [b]MAN UP!![/b]
SW-User
@Budwick 😂😂😂😂😂 ohhhh this is glorious! You have been BUSTED 😂😂😂
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues Look at the amount of hearts and supporting comments this article got. All based on lies!

Conspiracy theorists normally make their statements unprovable. But that is a least kind of a standard. Kind of. Posting something instantly disprovable makes Budwick the poor-man's conspiracy theorist.